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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 16/42] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:44:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10673dd87c27ea9def60ff841ebd261d31b46568.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZJWNWeqQ8ON9NNfs@finisterre.sirena.org.uk>

On Fri, 2023-06-23 at 13:17 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:40:00AM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 06:27:40PM +0000, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> 
> > > Yes, I couldn't find another place for it. This was the
> > > reasoning:
> > > 
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/07deaffc10b1b68721bbbce370e145d8fec2a494.camel@intel.com/
> 
> > > Did you have any particular place in mind?
> 
> > Since it's near CONFIG_X86_USER_SHADOW_STACK the comment in mm.h
> could be 
> 
> > /*
> >   * VMA is used for shadow stack and implies guard pages.
> >   * See arch/x86/kernel/shstk.c for details
> >   */
> 
> > and the long reasoning comment can be moved near alloc_shstk in
> > arch/x86/kernel/shstk.h

Makes sense. Not sure why I didn't think of this earlier.

> 
> This isn't an x86 specific concept, arm64 has a very similar
> extension
> called Guarded Control Stack (which I should be publishing changes
> for
> in the not too distant future) and riscv also has something.  For
> arm64
> I'm using the generic mm changes wholesale, we have a similar need
> for
> guard pages around the GCS and while the mechanics of accessing are
> different the requirement ends up being the same.  Perhaps we could
> just
> rewrite the comment to say that guard pages prevent over/underflow of
> the stack by userspace and that a single page is sufficient for all
> current architectures, with the details of the working for x86 put in
> some x86 specific place?

Something sort of similar came up in regards to the riscv series, about
adding something like an is_shadow_stack_vma() helper. The plan was to
not make too many assumptions about the final details of the other
shadow stack features and leave that for refactoring. I think some kind
of generic comment like you suggest makes sense, but I don't want to
try to assert any arch specifics for features that are not upstream. It
should be very easy to tweak the comment when the time comes.

The points about x86 details not belonging in non-arch headers and
having some arch generic explanation in the file are well taken though.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-25 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 208+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-13  0:10 [PATCH v9 00/42] Shadow stacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 01/42] mm: Rename arch pte_mkwrite()'s to pte_mkwrite_novma() Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10   ` Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10   ` Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10   ` Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10   ` Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10   ` Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  7:19   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13  7:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13  7:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13  7:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13  7:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13  7:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-06-13 16:14     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13  7:43   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13  7:43     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13  7:43     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13  7:43     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13  7:43     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13  7:43     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13 16:14     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 12:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 12:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 12:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 12:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 12:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 12:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 16:14     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-19  4:27   ` Helge Deller
2023-07-14 22:57   ` Mark Brown
2023-07-14 22:57     ` Mark Brown
2023-07-14 22:57     ` Mark Brown
2023-07-14 22:57     ` Mark Brown
2023-07-14 22:57     ` Mark Brown
2023-07-14 22:57     ` Mark Brown
2023-07-17 15:55     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-17 15:55       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-17 15:55       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-17 15:55       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-17 15:55       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-17 15:55       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-17 16:51       ` Mark Brown
2023-07-17 16:51         ` Mark Brown
2023-07-17 16:51         ` Mark Brown
2023-07-17 16:51         ` Mark Brown
2023-07-17 16:51         ` Mark Brown
2023-07-17 16:51         ` Mark Brown
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 02/42] mm: Move pte/pmd_mkwrite() callers with no VMA to _novma() Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10   ` Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  7:44   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13  7:44     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13 16:19     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:19       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 17:00       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 17:00         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-14 17:00         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-14 17:00           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 12:27   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 12:27     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 16:20     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 16:20       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 03/42] mm: Make pte_mkwrite() take a VMA Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  7:42   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13 16:20     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 12:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13 16:21     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 04/42] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-14  8:49   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-14 23:30   ` Mark Brown
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 05/42] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-14  8:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 06/42] x86/shstk: Add Kconfig option for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 07/42] x86/traps: Move control protection handler to separate file Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 08/42] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 09/42] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 10/42] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13 16:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 17:58   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-13 19:37     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 11/42] x86/mm: Update ptep/pmdp_set_wrprotect() for _PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13 18:01   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 12/42] x86/mm: Start actually marking _PAGE_SAVED_DIRTY Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 13/42] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 14/42] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-14  8:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-14 23:31   ` Mark Brown
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 15/42] x86/mm: Check shadow stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 16/42] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-14 23:34   ` Mark Brown
2023-06-22 18:21   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-22 18:27     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-23  7:40       ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-23 12:17         ` Mark Brown
2023-06-25 16:44           ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2023-06-26 12:45             ` Mark Brown
2023-07-06 23:32               ` [PATCH] x86/shstk: Move arch detail comment out of core mm Rick Edgecombe
2023-07-07 15:08                 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-01 16:52                 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 17/42] mm: Warn on shadow stack memory in wrong vma Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-14 23:35   ` Mark Brown
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 18/42] x86/mm: Warn if create Write=0,Dirty=1 with raw prot Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 19/42] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 20/42] x86/mm: Introduce MAP_ABOVE4G Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 21/42] x86/mm: Teach pte_mkwrite() about stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 22/42] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow " Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 23/42] Documentation/x86: Add CET shadow stack description Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13 11:55   ` Mark Brown
2023-06-13 12:37     ` Florian Weimer
2023-06-13 15:15       ` Mark Brown
2023-06-13 17:11         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 17:57           ` Mark Brown
2023-06-13 19:57             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-14 10:43               ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-14 16:57                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-19  8:47                   ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-19 16:44                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-20  9:17                       ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-20 19:34                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-21 11:36                           ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-21 18:54                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-21 22:22                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-21 23:05                                 ` H.J. Lu
2023-06-21 23:15                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-22  1:07                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-22  3:23                                       ` H.J. Lu
2023-06-22  8:27                                 ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-22 16:47                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-23 16:25                                     ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-25 18:48                                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-21 23:02                               ` H.J. Lu
2023-06-22  7:40                                 ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-22 16:46                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-26 14:08                                     ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-28  1:23                                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-22  9:18                               ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-22 15:26                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-22 16:42                                   ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-06-22 23:18                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-29 16:07                                       ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-07-02 18:03                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-03 13:32                                           ` Mark Brown
2023-07-03 18:19                                           ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-07-03 18:38                                             ` Mark Brown
2023-07-03 18:49                                             ` Florian Weimer
2023-07-04 11:33                                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-07-05 18:45                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-05 19:10                                               ` Mark Brown
2023-07-05 19:17                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-05 19:29                                                   ` Mark Brown
2023-07-06 13:14                                                     ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-07-06 14:24                                                       ` Mark Brown
2023-07-06 16:59                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-06 19:03                                                           ` Mark Brown
2023-07-06 13:07                                               ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-07-06 18:25                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-07 15:25                                                   ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-07-07 17:37                                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-10 16:54                                                       ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-07-10 22:56                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-11  8:08                                                           ` szabolcs.nagy
2023-07-12  9:39                                                             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-06-25 23:52                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-14 13:12               ` Mark Brown
2023-07-18 19:32   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 24/42] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 25/42] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 26/42] x86: Introduce userspace API for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 27/42] x86/shstk: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 28/42] x86/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-27 17:20   ` Mark Brown
2023-06-27 23:46     ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-28  0:37       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-07-06 23:38         ` [PATCH] x86/shstk: Don't retry vm_munmap() on -EINTR Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 29/42] x86/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 30/42] x86/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 31/42] x86/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 32/42] x86/shstk: Check that SSP is aligned on sigreturn Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:10 ` [PATCH v9 33/42] x86/shstk: Check that signal frame is shadow stack mem Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 34/42] x86/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 35/42] x86/shstk: Support WRSS for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 36/42] x86: Expose thread features in /proc/$PID/status Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 37/42] x86/shstk: Wire in shadow stack interface Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 38/42] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 39/42] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 40/42] x86: Add PTRACE interface for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 41/42] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  0:11 ` [PATCH v9 42/42] x86/shstk: Add ARCH_SHSTK_STATUS Rick Edgecombe
2023-06-13  1:34 ` [PATCH v9 00/42] Shadow stacks for userspace Linus Torvalds
2023-06-13  3:12   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-13 17:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-13 18:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-13 19:38         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-06-14 23:45 ` Mark Brown

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