From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268213AbUJCXEr (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:04:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268216AbUJCXEr (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:04:47 -0400 Received: from clock-tower.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:40859 "EHLO localhost.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268213AbUJCXEo (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:04:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone From: Alan Cox To: Willy Tarreau Cc: "Jeff V. Merkey" , jonathan@jonmasters.org, "jmerkey@comcast.net" , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20041003114602.GA19761@alpha.home.local> References: <100120041740.9915.415D967600014EC2000026BB2200758942970A059D0A0306@comcast.net> <35fb2e590410011509712b7d1@mail.gmail.com> <415DD1ED.6030101@drdos.com> <1096738439.25290.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20041003114602.GA19761@alpha.home.local> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1096840917.16384.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:01:58 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sul, 2004-10-03 at 12:46, Willy Tarreau wrote: > care, I did not do it. Just told the customer that if he wanted, he could > have everything, but when he replies "no thanks", I have no motivation > loosing my time. So from time to time, I put together new patches on my Which meets the GPL file. Customer can also be expected to work "diff" unless you are doing daft stuff like obfuscating existing code. > As long as vendors are honnest, and respect their customers' rights, I > don't see any problem. The problem arises when vendors explicitly refuse > to open anything. But most of the time, I suspect it's just a matter of > time and cleanness, and we should not expect too much from vendors who > already acknowledge that they are using GPL software and that they are > doing their best to publish the code ASAP. On the little embedded box side there is certainly a lot of systematic abuse, especially in asian originated products. (And I justify the otherwise apparently racist remark with the statistics). > > GPL v 2 blah bla > > > > or you may choose to distribute the software without source > > code for $100,000 per product you ship it in. > > > > This would then also give both a Judge and the thief a clear crystalised > > value for damages.... > > Hmmm interesting clause which would make them think before they steal the > code. Perhaps they would take more time to separate open and closed code > then. The problem is to define whom this money should be sent to. Well I was thinking the $100,000 would just be for the bits I wrote in that one file or that one driver, .... Alan