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From: Marat Khalili <mkh@rqc.ru>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>, Dave <davestechshop@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux fs Btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Fred Van Andel <vanandel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Problem with file system
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 08:57:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10fb0b92-bc93-a217-0608-5284ac1a05cd@rqc.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtS9BPZn-hnS+wP7Eu3oHQP_tS8EEM4j4FQDwRmzcFH+_A@mail.gmail.com>

On 31/10/17 00:37, Chris Murphy wrote:
> But off hand it sounds like hardware was sabotaging the expected write
> ordering. How to test a given hardware setup for that, I think, is
> really overdue. It affects literally every file system, and Linux
> storage technology.
>
> It kinda sounds like to me something other than supers is being
> overwritten too soon, and that's why it's possible for none of the
> backup roots to find a valid root tree, because all four possible root
> trees either haven't actually been written yet (still) or they've been
> overwritten, even though the super is updated. But again, it's
> speculation, we don't actually know why your system was no longer
> mountable.
Just a detached view: I know hardware should respect ordering/barriers 
and such, but how hard is it really to avoid overwriting at least one 
complete metadata tree for half an hour (even better, yet another one 
for a day)? Just metadata, not data extents.

--

With Best Regards,
Marat Khalili

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-31  5:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-24 15:27 Problem with file system Fred Van Andel
2017-04-24 17:02 ` Chris Murphy
2017-04-25  4:05   ` Duncan
2017-04-25  0:26 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-04-25  5:33   ` Marat Khalili
2017-04-25  6:13     ` Qu Wenruo
2017-04-26 16:43       ` Fred Van Andel
2017-10-30  3:31         ` Dave
2017-10-30 21:37           ` Chris Murphy
2017-10-31  5:57             ` Marat Khalili [this message]
2017-10-31 11:28               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-03  7:42                 ` Kai Krakow
2017-11-03 11:33                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-03 22:03                 ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-04  4:46                   ` Adam Borowski
2017-11-04 12:00                     ` Marat Khalili
2017-11-04 17:14                     ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-06 13:29                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-06 18:45                         ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-06 19:12                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-04  7:26             ` Dave
2017-11-04 17:25               ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-07  7:01                 ` Dave
2017-11-07 13:02                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-08  4:50                     ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-08 12:13                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-08 17:17                         ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-08 17:22                           ` Hugo Mills
2017-11-08 17:54                             ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-08 18:10                               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-08 18:31                                 ` Chris Murphy
2017-11-08 19:29                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-10-31  1:58           ` Duncan

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