From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from premium237-5.web-hosting.com (premium237-5.web-hosting.com [66.29.146.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63CB37B; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 14:48:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sladewatkins.net; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=gWzPMps3Q5viimmfl6sV284M/N5y+shUDxxXBBqoCkU=; b=iNqzp2P8jAayhN9Z6KXnUi9xqe UX8lSnjtAq0qQNHYmBEOfW8LaTFKV0bVTiflZw0zpnPZDJHPu07pnBA1y6P31KsOM/6YS1CTZgwbp vHJCRuUjue0PpmxeJqXndddWrHq9YXb2HrE5tAXnF9jtqidcsXP9DM0borleo3pEC3TnhOcWqhc1y kSIdHxtxytpimIMmza1RXFGvQkIgloHJZAF32nftla+icanoc4hXoShecuohOrErWSDv96wWGxncD aLxxoUdRZ7f757RImJgIuXbc1F8fEsMpv7aDubKWCQnbtHz65vXyk4wRWwti32tAvKXjDmQUEESdy H++T0khg==; Received: from pool-108-4-135-94.albyny.fios.verizon.net ([108.4.135.94]:58045 helo=smtpclient.apple) by premium237.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1of0GP-0043by-UI; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 10:48:18 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" From: Slade Watkins In-Reply-To: <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 10:48:12 -0400 Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <11098E44-8BB4-4318-9BE1-A659573E6BA4@sladewatkins.net> References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> <9a2fdff8-d0d3-ebba-d344-3c1016237fe5@gmx.com> <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium237.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.linux.dev X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sladewatkins.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium237.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: srw@sladewatkins.net X-Authenticated-Sender: premium237.web-hosting.com: srw@sladewatkins.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Hi, > On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > As I've said many times already: bugzilla must be an opt-out, not = opt-in > experience/option. >=20 > Let's subscribe the past six months of developers using git commits = and > if someone doesn't like getting emails they go to the website and > unsubscribe _once_ which takes a minute. This is a non-issue I've no > clue why we're dwelling on it. I disagree with this in its *entirety* and I really don=E2=80=99t think = it has any chance of moving forward.=20 If this were to happen (and it won=E2=80=99t!) then developers will just = send the emails to spam or some other filter because they didn=E2=80=99t = _consent_ to being subscribed to it. And in my opinion, they=E2=80=99d = be justified in doing that. -srw