From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751749AbVLGTd7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:33:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751720AbVLGTd7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:33:59 -0500 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:55476 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751255AbVLGTd6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:33:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario From: Lee Revell To: "Randy.Dunlap" Cc: Rik van Riel , Arjan van de Ven , Andrea Arcangeli , William Lee Irwin III , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051205121851.GC2838@holomorphy.com> <20051206011844.GO28539@opteron.random> <1133857767.2858.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:34:57 -0500 Message-Id: <1133984098.17901.35.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 10:44 -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote: > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 02:18 +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > > > > I am convinced that the only way to stop the erosion is to totally stop > > > > buying hardware that has only binary only drivers > > > > > this only works if more people than "just Andrea and Arjan" do it > > > though. > > > > This worked very well in the late 1990's, when various > > sites had Linux hardware compatibility lists. > > > > Does anybody still maintain a list like that today (with > > components, not just whole certified systems) ? > > There are lists for USB and for IEEE1394 (Firewire). > I'm not aware of others, but then I haven't searched for others. > http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix It's a LOT of work to keep up to date... Lee