From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932066AbVLLPvs (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:51:48 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932067AbVLLPvs (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:51:48 -0500 Received: from [81.2.110.250] ([81.2.110.250]:23681 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932066AbVLLPvr (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:51:47 -0500 Subject: Re: GNU/Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario From: Alan Cox To: Florian Weimer Cc: Erwin Rol , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <87fyozk2rr.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> References: <21d7e9970512051610n1244467am12adc8373c1a4473@mail.gmail.com> <20051206040820.GB26602@kroah.com> <2cd57c900512052358m5b631204i@mail.gmail.com> <200512061856.42493.luke-jr@utopios.org> <2cd57c900512061742s28f57b5eu@mail.gmail.com> <20051210051628.E9E08CF4156@tsurukikun.utopios.org> <439A7E8E.8010707@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20051210164320.GB15986@aitel.hist.no> <20051210190537.GI13985@lug-owl.de> <439B2215.6090408@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20051210191501.GJ13985@lug-owl.de> <439B3E36.7090302@wolfmountaingroup.com> <1134314129.9000.31.camel@xpc.home.erwinrol.com> <87fyozk2rr.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:51:07 +0000 Message-Id: <1134402667.6841.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sul, 2005-12-11 at 17:38 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > IP enforcements varies quite a lot across Europe. I'm being told that > in the UK, the DVD situation is as worse as in some Asian countries > (i.e. you can buy illegal copies of current movies on flea markets). It isnt quite as bad. However there is a lack of interest in enforcement from local government who have better things to spend their money on, and also because the IP rules have been abused so much in the UK including to charge rip off prices that local goverment serves voters who are likely to vote against not for any local government representative who decides to go on an anti-piracy crusade. I've heard people in the trading standards area (which tackles counterfeiting) who've been told by their elected "masters" to concentrate solely on the other areas of their duties like product safety if they want to have an operating budget next year. Unfortuantely the bad behaviour of the big media companies that triggered much of this gets reflected back at everything even disinterest in GPL violation enforcment or large scale violations by big business. Alan