From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [195.121.247.12] (helo=psmtp03.wxs.nl) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HHTNp-0005HX-1M for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:17:53 +0100 Received: from [10.0.0.152] (ip5457b30e.direct-adsl.nl [84.87.179.14]) by psmtp03.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JDH00BGC7D0EH@psmtp03.wxs.nl> for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:17:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:17:17 +0100 From: gerwin van der kruis In-reply-to: <6385CB83-3092-471F-B579-BDD8A2A65133@netgate.com> To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Message-id: <1171495037.11033.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-1.fc6) References: <1171051575.3886.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200702141311.17165.openembedded@hrw.one.pl> <1171489223.1692.501.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1171489873.11033.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45D38BB9.5070709@am.sony.com> <96763D62-00DF-440D-8688-E237E1CE0BB8@netgate.com> <45D38F2C.1030700@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl> <6385CB83-3092-471F-B579-BDD8A2A65133@netgate.com> Subject: Re: OE Booth during fosdem X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:17:53 -0000 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Op woensdag 14-02-2007 om 12:53 uur [tijdzone -1000], schreef Jim Thompson: > And I'm willing to throw cash, hardware and time at this. > > Yes, we sell WRAP boards, but I'm not looking to get a bunch-o-free > development out of the process. (We sell a Gateworks ixp42x board > too, just to be perfectly honest.) > > Years ago, I ran (and owned) 'musenki' (google for it or look here: > http://he-colo.netgate.com/~jim/Musenki/. We had build a set of > Motorola 8245/8241 boards, and I'd made linux run on them. I > remember spending a horrific amount of time with a (very) early > version of "buildroot". OE is so much more sophisticated that I'm a > bit taken aback. > > The OE learning curve is still quite steep, but I think it would be > less steep with a) a bit more documentation and b) an EZ way to start > creating "little distros" that > run on PCs using it. I remember we had this discussion before , the problem is the bootloader, for example grub requires some extra handlings to get installed probarly. I also experimented a bit with disk on modules which were much faster than the compact flash and much cheaper as well. I think if you write a script which automate the installation of for example grub and than copies automatically the files over to cf you are finished , I did it once long time ago for an embedded voip pabx. As Koen said I am working on x86 projects like wifi-radio (with a mini-itx board and some small additions) a set top box and a thin client.So we are working on it !! I will have a look if I still can find the software I made that time for putting the image directly on the flash (I wrote it to produce some goods) Regards, Gerwin