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From: "J. Mayer" <l_indien@magic.fr>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU Alpha target
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:01:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175202061.6794.110.camel@rapid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703291625.51752.paul@codesourcery.com>

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 16:25 +0100, Paul Brook wrote:
> On Thursday 29 March 2007 16:12, Stuart Brady wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 04:08:25PM +0100, Paul Brook wrote:
> > > > There do seem to be a few people who'd like Alpha emulation for QEMU.
> > > > Obviously, you'd want to get dynamic translation working first. :-)
> > > >
> > > > OTOH, I'm now wondering which archs can support full virtualisation.
> > >
> > > Depends how you define "full virtualization". If you call kqemu full
> > > virtualization then you can do that on pretty much any CPU.
> >
> > I meant "meeting Popek and Goldberg's virtualisation requirements".
> 
> In that case, I suspect most of them don't.
> x86 certainly doesn't. Recent VT/SVM extensions bring it close, but there are 
> still problems.
> PPC and SPARC also have hypervisor extensions, which suggests the conventional 
> instruction sets don't allow full virtualization.

PowerPC is fully virtualisable which is what Mac-On-Linux is supposed to
do. But this has a cost. Hypervisor mode seems to exists only to do the
same without any performance degradation.

-- 
J. Mayer <l_indien@magic.fr>
Never organized

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-29 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-17 13:37 [Qemu-devel] Latest SVN fails to build on Fedora Core 6 (same with 0.9.0) Thomas Orgis
2007-03-18  4:45 ` Tony Nelson
2007-03-18  8:37   ` Thomas Orgis
2007-03-18  9:18     ` Nigel Horne
2007-03-22 19:46       ` [Qemu-devel] 0.9.0 and svn don't build with -march=pentium2 etc.; was: " Thomas Orgis
2007-03-22 20:13         ` Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-03-23  9:58           ` Thomas Orgis
2007-03-23 10:21             ` Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-03-23 15:45               ` Paul Brook
2007-03-23 20:11                 ` Thomas Orgis
2007-03-24 12:32                   ` Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-03-24 12:55                     ` Julian Seward
2007-03-26  9:34                       ` Thomas Orgis
2007-03-28 19:56                     ` Rob Landley
2007-03-29 10:55                       ` Thomas Orgis
2007-03-29 14:55                         ` [Qemu-devel] QEMU Alpha target Stuart Brady
2007-03-29 15:08                           ` Paul Brook
2007-03-29 15:12                             ` Stuart Brady
2007-03-29 15:25                               ` Paul Brook
2007-03-29 21:01                                 ` J. Mayer [this message]
2007-03-29 15:25                         ` [Qemu-devel] 0.9.0 and svn don't build with -march=pentium2 etc.; was: Latest SVN fails to build on Fedora Core 6 (same with 0.9.0) Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-03-29 16:08                           ` Stuart Brady
2007-03-29 19:57                             ` J. Mayer
2007-03-29 20:04                               ` Brian Wheeler
2007-03-29 21:18                               ` [Qemu-devel] QEMU Alpha target Stuart Brady
2007-03-29 21:31                                 ` J. Mayer
2007-03-29 21:57                                   ` Stuart Brady
2007-03-29 21:48                                 ` Thomas Orgis

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