From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752424AbXDIFOV (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 01:14:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752914AbXDIFOU (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 01:14:20 -0400 Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:49270 "EHLO out4.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752424AbXDIFOT (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 01:14:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1176095658.16239.1183614988@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: wx8JEWU/V8lev8ktQl+ulewGC1n5aJc6AmSZPsAOnMOt 1176095658 From: johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm To: "Richard Knutsson" Cc: "Christer Weinigel" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <46157B5B.5000602@gmail.com> <1175817921.18400.1183285196@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461592FB.5060507@zytor.com> <1175819681.20754.1183287946@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461596DE.2020802@zytor.com> <1175823288.25662.1183293506@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4615C780.5040407@zytor.com> <1175833931.8916.1183307802@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20070407191715.GG3510@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <1175993097.32498.1183512070@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1176069053.31062.1183584012@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461973AD.5060906@student.ltu.se> Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel In-Reply-To: <461973AD.5060906@student.ltu.se> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:14:18 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:58:53 +0200, "Richard Knutsson" said: > Wow, I'm impressed. Think you got the record on how many mails you > referenced to in a reply... TWO actually. I guess you are easily impressed. A simple cut and paste error. > You have got some rude answers and you have called them back on it Yeah, I (fairly closely) mimicked their behavior to make a point. > + you have repeated the same statement several times, that is > not the best way of convincing people. I know you DON'T believe that, as you are about the tenth person to repeat that "repeating stuff has no effect." > I believe you picked up the "anti-Reiser religion"-phrase from previous > rant-wars (otherwise, why does that "religion"-phrase always come up, > and (almost) only when dealing with Reiser-fs), and yes, there has been > some clashes caused by both sides, so please be careful when dealing > with this matter. NO. You people simply come across as zealots who work together, against Reiser4. Hence the term "anti-Reiser religion." > Would you be willing to benchmark Reiser4 with some compressed > binary-blob and show the time as well as the CPU-usage? I might be. I don't really know how to set it all up. Perhaps if you guided me through it. > > > > You deliberately ignored the fact that bad blocks are NOT dealt with by > > the filesystem,... but by the operating system. Like I said: If your > > filesystem is writing to bad blocks, then throw away your operating > > system. > > > I may have missed something, but if my room-mate took my harddrive, > screwed it open, wrote a love-letter on the disk with a pencil and then > returned it (ok, there may be some more plausible reasons for > corruption), is the OS really suppose to handle it? Yeah, I can't see how the OS could read the love-letter either. But one thing is for sure. The FS ain't responsible for reading it. > Yes, it should not > assign any new data to those blocks but should it not also fall into the > file-systems domain to be able to restore some/all data? It's a tough ask of any FS. Microsoft's filesystem checker totally roasted all my data on an XP-box last night. I had used ntfsresize to reduce the partition size and had a power outage. Later, Windows booted, ran the filesystem checker, seemed OK. Next time I boot, all I get is Input/Output error. > > Just my 2c to the pond > Richard Knutsson > Addin my 2c John. -- johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service