From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Igor Stoppa Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] Android PM extensions Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:54:35 +0200 Message-ID: <1233428075.4566.3.camel@localhost> References: <200901311939.30837.rjw@sisk.pl> Reply-To: igor.stoppa@nokia.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <200901311939.30837.rjw@sisk.pl> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-pm-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Errors-To: linux-pm-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org To: "ext Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Brian Swetland , "linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org" , Nigel Cunningham List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org Hi, On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 19:39 +0100, ext Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > Well, I think that sleep states are not really useful in cell phones. > Useful > is the ability to put all devices into low power states separately and > as > needed (eg. after a period of inactivity). IOW, the system as a whole > is > in the working state, but some parts of the hardware may be in low > power states > (even all of the I/O devices may be in low power states). That may > very well > look "asleep" from the user point of view, but it is not a sleep > state. yup it's very depressing that several years after we released the Nokia 770, in the far 2005, people are still talking about these basic concepts. And while it can be somehow excused for what concerns the x86 world of laptops, it's even more depressing that such discussion surfaces in relation to Android. -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo Software - Nokia Devices R&D - Helsinki