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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>
Cc: Stefan Seyfried <seife@suse.de>, linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add udev mode to bluetoothd
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:51:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244922695.1852.8.camel@violet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1244829538.11069.2800.camel@cookie.hadess.net>

Hi Bastien,

> > > Under normal conditions, we'd exit(1) if started and the bus isn't
> > > available, and udev would pick that up, marking our job as failed, and
> > > relaunching us later in the boot process, under coldplug.
> > > 
> > > Marcel didn't like the idea though.
> > 
> > so how does udev handle this exactly. We try bluetoothd and it fails,
> > then it tries again later? What time exactly? How often? Does this
> > affect the fast-boot effort?
> 
> It will try to start up bluetooth as soon as it sees the device on
> startup. bluetoothd will fail to start, as D-Bus isn't started, with an
> exit code of 1.
> 
> udev notes the failure, and saves the rules to /dev/.udev/*.
> 
> The initscripts carry on, filesystems are mounted rw, D-Bus is started,
> then a udev "coldplug" is started (still part of the initscripts), and
> bluetoothd is started as expected.
> 
> I built some test packages yesterday, and Petr tested those, and it
> seems to work as expected.
> 
> If you fancy trying out on an F-12 system (the SRPM can be re-used on
> F-11, just remove the libgudev-devel BuildRequires line):
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=105952
> 
> So as far as I'm concerned, the only thing missing is getting the rules
> into bluez.
> 
> Marcel, do you want the udev rules installed by default? The cost would
> be an attempted run at bluetoothd on each adapter insertion, but it
> would still work as expected if bluetoothd was started from an
> initscript.

I have no problem triggering bluetoothd from udev every time we add a
new adapter. And unless we try it, we never know. I am a little bit
concerned about the boot time implications of this.

Send me a patch with the rules installation and lets make it default. We
see how far we get. I do hate init scripts anyway and if they get too
complex it costs us actually more time at boot than just starting the
daemon.

Regards

Marcel



      reply	other threads:[~2009-06-13 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-11 17:38 [PATCH] Add udev mode to bluetoothd Bastien Nocera
2009-06-11 17:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-12  7:40   ` Stefan Seyfried
2009-06-12  8:28     ` Stefan Seyfried
2009-06-12 17:43       ` Bastien Nocera
2009-06-12  8:40     ` Bastien Nocera
2009-06-12 15:28       ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-12 17:58         ` Bastien Nocera
2009-06-13 19:51           ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]

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