From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 93-97-173-237.zone5.bethere.co.uk ([93.97.173.237] helo=tim.rpsys.net) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PhUQj-0005h3-Gs for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:58:33 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tim.rpsys.net (8.13.6/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0OLvmv9005798 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:57:48 GMT Received: from tim.rpsys.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tim.rpsys.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02770-10 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:57:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.3.10] ([192.168.3.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by tim.rpsys.net (8.13.6/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0OLvfOh005788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:57:42 GMT From: Richard Purdie To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org In-Reply-To: References: <4D36F9BE.1010601@xora.org.uk> <4D3DAB2A.3070303@balister.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:57:28 +0000 Message-ID: <1295906248.14388.46605.camel@rex> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rpsys.net Subject: Re: openembedded-core git repository X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:58:34 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 22:43 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 24-01-11 17:39, Philip Balister wrote: > > On 01/19/2011 06:48 AM, Graeme Gregory wrote: > >> Hi, this email is sent as an ordinary member of OE. > >> > >> It seems to be on a technical level we are agreed that we should split > >> parts of OE out into the so called openembedded-core which will have a > >> stricter commit access and higher QA requirements on changes. > >> > >> I therefore think it is time to actually create the repository and let > >> the people who are interested in merging the good stuff from poky with > >> the good stuff from openembedded to create our "core". I don't think > >> there is any need to wait on the political part of the Yocto/OE > >> collaboration as its something we have agreed in principal to do anyway. > >> > >> I would request then that the TSC drive this forward with the server > >> admins and create this repo so work can happen. > > > > > > Has anything happened on this email? Has the TSC had a meeting to > > discuss? I know it has only been a week, but people are starting to do > > work based on these ideas and need some support from the TSC. > > At this point I'm going to call for a vote of non confidence in the TSC. > If they can't be bothered to speak up in an important matter like this, > we'd be better of without them. I've kept a low profile on this issue since I'm obviously heavily involved with Yocto and hence it could be argued I'm not impartial. I had hoped someone else on the TSC would therefore pick up this discussion but that hasn't happened. I have driven issues in the past, this is one I really can't drive alone. The TSC have been having trouble managing to organise meetings, organising minutes and have not been very responsive recently. There are a whole spectrum of reasons for that but at a time when OE really needs technical guidance this is a problem. The message here isn't to the oe-members list in the correct form so this isn't an official vote at this time but if it were, I think I'd find myself in the unusual position of voting in favour of a vote of no confidence for a group I'm actually part of :/. I'd actually like to see people with the technical understanding and time to spend help guiding OE such Koen and Khem on the TSC. Cheers, Richard