From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753342Ab1AZQL3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:11:29 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:27263 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750816Ab1AZQL1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:11:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/16] KVM-HDR: Implement wallclock over KVM - KVM Virtual Memory From: Glauber Costa To: Avi Kivity Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aliguori@us.ibm.com In-Reply-To: <4D403AEE.6010208@redhat.com> References: <1295892397-11354-1-git-send-email-glommer@redhat.com> <1295892397-11354-6-git-send-email-glommer@redhat.com> <4D4001D6.9030909@redhat.com> <1296044403.15920.54.camel@mothafucka.localdomain> <4D403AEE.6010208@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Red Hat Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:45:04 -0200 Message-ID: <1296056704.3591.28.camel@mothafucka.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 17:17 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 01/26/2011 02:20 PM, Glauber Costa wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:13 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > > > On 01/24/2011 08:06 PM, Glauber Costa wrote: > > > > As a proof of concept to KVM - Kernel Virtual Memory, this patch > > > > implements wallclock grabbing on top of it. At first, it may seem > > > > as a waste of work to just redo it, since it is working well. But over the > > > > time, other MSRs were added - think ASYNC_PF - and more will probably come. > > > > After this patch, we won't need to ever add another virtual MSR to KVM. > > > > > > > > > > So instead of adding MSRs, we're adding area identifiers. What did we gain? > > > > * No risk of namespace clashes of any kind, > > * less need for userspace coordination for feature enablement, > > That's a bug, not a feature. I don't see why. I's about feature enablement, not feature discovery. > > * more robust mechanism that can do discovery even on early boot, > > cpuid/wrmsr should be robust enough. > > > * more informative result values can be passed on to guest kernel, > > True. > > > * more flexibility, since we go back to userspace if we can't handle > > some request. Also, some requests are better handled by userspace > > anyway. But again, maybe this is a separate issue here... > > Yes. > > > * size information goes together with base, allowing for extending > > structures (well, maybe I should add versioning explicitly?) > > > > We could do that as well with wrmsr, by having the size as the first > field of the structure. Usually the size isn't really interesting, > though, since you need to discover/enable the new features independently. Which structure? For msrs, we're usually going for just an u64, but of course we could change that when needed.