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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Kamalesh Babulal <kamalesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: CFS Bandwidth Control - Test results of cgroups tasks pinned vs unpinnede
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:22:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1315423342.11101.25.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110907152009.GA3868@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 20:50 +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> 
> Fix excessive idle time reported when cgroups are capped. 

Where from? The whole idea of bandwidth caps is to introduce idle time,
so what's excessive and where does it come from?

>  The patch introduces the notion of "steal" 

The virt folks already claimed steal-time and have it mean something
entirely different. You get to pick a new name.

> (or "grace") time which is the surplus
> time/bandwidth each cgroup is allowed to consume, subject to a maximum
> steal time (sched_cfs_max_steal_time_us). Cgroups are allowed this "steal"
> or "grace" time when the lone task running on a cpu is about to be throttled.

Ok, so this is a solution to an unstated problem. Why is it a good
solution?

Also, another tunable, yay!

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-07 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-03  9:28 [patch 00/15] CFS Bandwidth Control V6 Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 01/15] sched: (fixlet) dont update shares twice on on_rq parent Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:14   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-10  8:32     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-11  7:55       ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  8:13         ` Paul Turner
2011-05-11  8:45           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-11  8:59             ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 02/15] sched: hierarchical task accounting for SCHED_OTHER Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:17   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 03/15] sched: introduce primitives to account for CFS bandwidth tracking Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:18   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 04/15] sched: validate CFS quota hierarchies Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:20   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:37     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16  9:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16  9:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 12:32     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-17 15:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18  7:16         ` Paul Turner
2011-05-18 11:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 05/15] sched: add a timer to handle CFS bandwidth refresh Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:21   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:27     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16 10:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 12:56     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 06/15] sched: accumulate per-cfs_rq cpu usage and charge against bandwidth Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:22   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:25     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16 10:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 12:59     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-17 15:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18  7:02         ` Paul Turner
2011-05-16 10:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 07/15] sched: expire invalid runtime Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:22   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-16 11:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 08/15] sched: throttle cfs_rq entities which exceed their local runtime Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:23   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-16 15:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-16 16:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 09/15] sched: unthrottle cfs_rq(s) who ran out of quota at period refresh Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:24   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:24     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 10/15] sched: allow for positional tg_tree walks Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:24   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-17 13:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-18  7:18     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 11/15] sched: prevent interactions between throttled entities and load-balance Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:26   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:11     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 12/15] sched: migrate throttled tasks on HOTPLUG Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:27   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:10     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:28 ` [patch 13/15] sched: add exports tracking cfs bandwidth control statistics Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:27   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  7:56   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:09     ` Paul Turner
2011-05-03  9:29 ` [patch 14/15] sched: return unused runtime on voluntary sleep Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:28   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-03  9:29 ` [patch 15/15] sched: add documentation for bandwidth control Paul Turner
2011-05-10  7:29   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-05-11  9:09     ` Paul Turner
2011-06-07 15:45 ` CFS Bandwidth Control - Test results of cgroups tasks pinned vs unpinned Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-08  3:09   ` Paul Turner
2011-06-08 10:46   ` Vladimir Davydov
2011-06-08 16:32     ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-09  3:25       ` Paul Turner
2011-06-10 18:17         ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-14  0:00           ` Paul Turner
2011-06-15  5:37             ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-06-21 19:48               ` Paul Turner
2011-06-24 15:05                 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-07 11:00                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-07 14:54                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-07 15:20                 ` CFS Bandwidth Control - Test results of cgroups tasks pinned vs unpinnede Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-07 19:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-09-08 15:15                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-09 12:31                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-09 13:26                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-12 10:17                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-12 12:35                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13  4:15                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13  5:03                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13  5:05                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13  9:39                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 11:28                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 14:07                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 16:21                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 16:33                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 17:41                                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 16:36                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 17:54                                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:03                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:12                                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:07                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:19                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:28                                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:30                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:35                                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-15 17:55                                                     ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-15 21:48                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 17:51                                                         ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-20  0:38                                                           ` Venki Pallipadi
2011-09-20 11:09                                                             ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-20 13:56                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 14:04                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:55                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-21 17:34                                                         ` Kamalesh Babulal
2011-09-13 14:19                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 18:01                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-13 18:23                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-16  8:14                                     ` Paul Turner
2011-09-16  8:28                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-19 16:35                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-09-16  8:22                   ` Paul Turner
2011-06-14 10:16   ` CFS Bandwidth Control - Test results of cgroups tasks pinned vs unpinned Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-14  6:58 ` [patch 00/15] CFS Bandwidth Control V6 Hu Tao
2011-06-14  7:29   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-14  7:44     ` Hu Tao
2011-06-15  8:37     ` Hu Tao
2011-06-16  0:57       ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-16  9:45         ` Hu Tao
2011-06-17  1:22           ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-17  6:05             ` Hu Tao
2011-06-17  6:25             ` Paul Turner
2011-06-17  9:13               ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-06-18  0:28                 ` Paul Turner

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