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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	carlos <carlos@redhat.com>, Peter Oskolkov <posk@posk.io>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] rseq: extend struct rseq with per thread group vcpu id
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 16:20:40 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1339477886.25835.1643750440726.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sft2xr7w.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>

----- On Feb 1, 2022, at 3:32 PM, Florian Weimer fw@deneb.enyo.de wrote:
[...]
> 
>>> Is the switch really useful?  I suspect it's faster to just write as
>>> much as possible all the time.  The switch should be well-predictable
>>> if running uniform userspace, but still …
>>
>> The switch ensures the kernel don't try to write to a memory area beyond
>> the rseq size which has been registered by user-space. So it seems to be
>> useful to ensure we don't corrupt user-space memory. Or am I missing your
>> point ?
> 
> Due to the alignment, I think you'd only ever see 32 and 64 bytes for
> now?

Yes, but I would expect the rseq registration arguments to have a rseq_len
of offsetofend(struct rseq, tg_vcpu_id) when userspace wants the tg_vcpu_id
feature to be supported (but not the following features).

Then, as we append additional features as follow-up fields, those
eventually become requested by glibc by increasing the requested size.

Then it's kind of weird to receive a registration size which is not
aligned on 32-byte, but then use internal knowledge of the structure
alignment in the kernel code to write beyond the requested size. And all
this in a case where we are returning to user-space after a preemption,
so I don't expect this extra switch/case to cause significant overhead.

> 
> I'd appreciate if you could put the maximm supported size and possibly
> the alignment in the auxiliary vector, so that we don't have to rseq
> system calls in a loop on process startup.

Yes, it's a good idea. I'm not too familiar with the auxiliary vector.
Are we talking about the kernel's

fs/binfmt_elf.c:fill_auxv_note()

?

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-01 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-01 19:25 [RFC PATCH 1/3] Introduce per thread group current virtual cpu id Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-01 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] rseq: extend struct rseq with per thread group vcpu id Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-01 20:03   ` Florian Weimer
2022-02-01 20:22     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-01 20:32       ` Florian Weimer
2022-02-01 21:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2022-02-01 21:30           ` Florian Weimer
2022-02-02  1:32             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-03 15:53               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-01 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] selftests/rseq: Implement rseq tg_vcpu_id field support Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-01 19:49 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] Introduce per thread group current virtual cpu id Peter Oskolkov
2022-02-01 21:00   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-02 11:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-02 13:48   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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