From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Dumazet Subject: Re: [RFC v2] fq_codel : interval servo on hosts Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:34:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1346772855.13121.40.camel@edumazet-glaptop> References: <1346396137.2586.301.camel@edumazet-glaptop> <1346421031.2591.34.camel@edumazet-glaptop> <1346421466.2591.38.camel@edumazet-glaptop> <1346503884.7996.65.camel@edumazet-glaptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tomas Hruby , netdev , codel@lists.bufferbloat.net To: Nandita Dukkipati Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: codel-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net Errors-To: codel-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 08:10 -0700, Nandita Dukkipati wrote: > The idea of using srtt as interval makes sense to me if alongside we > also hash flows with similar RTTs into same bucket. But with just the > change in interval, I am not sure how codel is expected to behave. > > My understanding is: the interval (usually set to worst case expected > RTT) is used to measure the standing queue or the "bad" queue. Suppose > 1ms and 100ms RTT flows get hashed to same bucket, then the interval > with this patch will flip flop between 1ms and 100ms. How is this > expected to measure a standing queue? In fact I think the 1ms flow may > land up measuring the burstiness or the "good" queue created by the > long RTT flows, and this isn't desirable. > Well, how things settle with a pure codel, mixing flows of very different RTT then ? It seems there is a high resistance on SFQ/fq_codel model because of the probabilities of flows sharing a bucket. So what about removing the stochastic thing and switch to a hash with collision resolution ?