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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Marco Porsch <marco.porsch@etit.tu-chemnitz.de>
Cc: javier@cozybit.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 14/14] mac80211: mesh PS individually-addressed frame release
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:45:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1353926751.9488.19.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50ABC7D0.2030303@etit.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 10:11 -0800, Marco Porsch wrote:

> > This is ... strange? Can a single station really own *two* num_psp
> > refcounts?
> 
> Yes it can. A station can be both owner and recipient. And it would just 
> be overhead to distinguish between num_psp_owner and num_psp_recipient, 
> when in the end we only want to know if there is  any PSP ongoing at all.
> 
> I'll change the comment to:
> 	/* number of active PSPs (owner and recipient counted independently) */
> 	atomic_t num_psp;

Ok.

> >> +	nullfunc = (struct ieee80211_hdr *) skb->data;
> >> +	if (!eosp)
> >> +		nullfunc->frame_control |=
> >> +				cpu_to_le16(IEEE80211_FCTL_MOREDATA);
> >
> > This seems wrong -- EOSP and moredata are orthogonal (with the
> > restriction that "!EOSP => moredata") -- but if you just have that in
> > the code the moredata bit won't always be set correctly.
> 
> Imho, in the context of PSP trigger frames it does.
> Sending a trigger frame to a mesh PS STA with no EOSP implies the start 
> of a PSP with the sender as owner -> following data. The other two 
> combinations imply that there is no more data following in that direction.

The EOSP bit in a trigger frame should always be 0 unless the frame is
also a PSP response, no?

What you seem to be missing though is the case when there _is_ more
data, but the service period has to end nonetheless, say because it was
limited to a few packets? Nothing here seems to indicate that an MPSP
ends only after all queued packets are transmitted, which would be a
requirement if this was supposed to be correct.

(Btw, maybe it would be worthwhile to call all of this "MPSP" like the
spec, not just "PSP"?)

> But now that you mention it... is there any interest in having that 
> function used for uAPSD? Because ieee80211_sta_ps_deliver_response sets 
> the EOSP flag during uAPSD, but does not enforce a QoS Data frame to 
> carry it. But maybe uAPSD just permits transmitting anything else than 
> QoS Data frames...

Well, not really, but non-QoS frames won't happen in that case, because
the peer will have QoS enabled. Similarly here I think, why would there
ever be a non-QoS frame? But maybe this can happen with forwarding,
which can't happen in the non-mesh case.

> >
> >> +		ieee80211_sta_ps_deliver_response(sta, 1, 0,
> >> +				IEEE80211_FRAME_RELEASE_UAPSD);
> >
> > uAPSD?
> >
> > The standard *explicitly* states that ASPD is *not* supported in mesh.
> 
> Absolutely correct. The PSP mechanism is just very similar to uAPSD, 
> though. So once the PSP is set up, the mechanisms are the same actually. 
> What do you advise? Renaming the release reason? Creating a different 
> one that is handled equally?

Well so far the more-data bit seems to be handled different, although I
argue above that you're actually not doing that correctly ;-)

But I think doing different reasons could be helpful, if only to
understand the code better.

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-26 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-17  6:47 [RFC 00/14] mesh powersave - basics Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  6:47 ` [RFC 01/14] {nl,cfg,mac}80211: add beacon interval and DTIM period to mesh config Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  8:54   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:47 ` [RFC 02/14] {cfg,nl}80211: mesh power mode config parameters Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  8:57   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:47 ` [RFC 03/14] {cfg,nl}80211: set and get default mesh power mode Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  8:59   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17 23:38     ` Thomas Pedersen
2012-11-17  6:47 ` [RFC 04/14] mac80211: local link-specific mesh power mode logic Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:05   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:47 ` [RFC 05/14] mac80211: mesh power mode indication in transmitted frames Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:10   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-19 20:07     ` Marco Porsch
2012-11-19 20:32       ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:47 ` [RFC 06/14] mac80211: track neighbor STA power modes Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:14   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:47 ` [RFC 07/14] {cfg,nl}80211: set local link-specific power mode Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:16   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:48 ` [RFC 08/14] {cfg,nl}80211: get local and peer mesh power modes Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  6:48 ` [RFC 09/14] mac80211: add power save support structure to mesh interface Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:26   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-20 23:53     ` Marco Porsch
2012-11-26 10:39       ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:48 ` [RFC 10/14] mac80211: enable frame buffering for PS STA Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:28   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:48 ` [RFC 11/14] {cfg,nl}80211: add awake window to mesh config Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:29   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:48 ` [RFC 12/14] mac80211: add awake window IE to mesh beacons Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:30   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:48 ` [RFC 13/14] mac80211: add TIM " Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:33   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  6:48 ` [RFC 14/14] mac80211: mesh PS individually-addressed frame release Marco Porsch
2012-11-17  9:40   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-20 18:11     ` Marco Porsch
2012-11-26 10:45       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2012-11-26 18:27         ` Marco Porsch
2012-11-28 13:07           ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-17  9:41 ` [RFC 00/14] mesh powersave - basics Johannes Berg

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