All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>
Cc: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>,
	Simon Wunderlich <simon.wunderlich@s2003.tu-chemnitz.de>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linville@tuxdriver.com,
	mathias.kretschmer@fokus.fraunhofer.de,
	Simon Wunderlich <siwu@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nl80211: allow ad-hoc to set WMM parameters from outside
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:41:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1357137688.9839.43.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201301021436.55010.chunkeey@googlemail.com> (sfid-20130102_143701_280650_6146D5CB)

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 14:36 +0100, Christian Lamparter wrote:

> I can't find anything useful in the 802.11-2012 spec either. There's
> something vague in 4.7 "Difference between ESS and IBSS LANs" on page 80:
> "The services that apply to an IBSS are the SSs [Station ServiceS]. [...].
> The parameters that  control differentiation of the delivery of MSDUs with
> different priority using EDCA are >FIXED<. [...]".
> 
> But what does this mean? Does it translate into: "Every peer of an IBSS
> truly independent of each other when it comes to the WMM parameters.
> Each peer can advertise (in beacons, probes, ...) and have its own set
> of fixed parameters and no one needs to sync those from anyone else"?
> 
> Or does "fixed" just mean that everyone has to go with the default WMM
> parameters from 8-105 [i.e.: no one can change them at all]?

Yeah it's a little vague, but I think it means *fixed* as you describe.
The WMM spec describes them as fixed and also doesn't include the WMM
Parameter IE in beacons/probe responses, so all of this would be an
extension to the spec and we have to be careful not to break the spec
(default) case (which is correct right now, afaict, with default
parameters and no parameters IE)

Interoperating with FreeBSD would be useful though.

johannes



  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-02 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-27 18:50 [PATCH] Allow to set WMM parameters in IBSS mode Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 18:50 ` [PATCH] nl80211: allow ad-hoc to set WMM parameters from outside Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-28 14:01   ` Johannes Berg
2012-11-30 13:43     ` Simon Wunderlich
2012-12-28 15:05       ` Johannes Berg
2012-12-30 23:33         ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-01-01 23:46           ` Adrian Chadd
2013-01-02 12:58             ` Johannes Berg
2013-01-02 13:36               ` Christian Lamparter
2013-01-02 14:41                 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2013-01-08 14:13                   ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-01-08 17:28                     ` Adrian Chadd
2013-01-09 13:15                       ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-01-09 14:10                         ` Christian Lamparter
2013-01-09 14:33                           ` Simon Wunderlich
2013-01-09 20:01                             ` Christian Lamparter
2012-11-27 18:50 ` [PATCH] iw: allow to set wmm parameters from iw Simon Wunderlich
2012-11-27 21:14   ` [PATCHv2] " Simon Wunderlich

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1357137688.9839.43.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net \
    --to=johannes@sipsolutions.net \
    --cc=adrian@freebsd.org \
    --cc=chunkeey@googlemail.com \
    --cc=linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linville@tuxdriver.com \
    --cc=mathias.kretschmer@fokus.fraunhofer.de \
    --cc=simon.wunderlich@s2003.tu-chemnitz.de \
    --cc=siwu@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.