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From: Ewan Milne <emilne@redhat.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/9] [SCSI] Detect overflow of sense data buffer
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:21:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1358976067.4420.381.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1358946385.2584.56.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com>

On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 13:06 +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 10:08 -0500, Ewan Milne wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 16:46 +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 11:27 -0500, Ewan D. Milne wrote:
> > > > --- a/drivers/scsi/scsi_error.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/scsi/scsi_error.c
> > > > @@ -241,6 +241,9 @@ static int scsi_check_sense(struct scsi_cmnd *scmd)
> > > >  	if (! scsi_command_normalize_sense(scmd, &sshdr))
> > > >  		return FAILED;	/* no valid sense data */
> > > >  
> > > > +	if (sshdr.overflow)
> > > > +		scmd_printk(KERN_WARNING, scmd, "Sense data overflow");
> > > > +
> > > >  	if (scsi_sense_is_deferred(&sshdr))
> > > >  		return NEEDS_RETRY;
> > > >  
> > > > @@ -2059,14 +2062,18 @@ int scsi_normalize_sense(const u8 *sense_buffer, int sb_len,
> > > >  			sshdr->asc = sense_buffer[2];
> > > >  		if (sb_len > 3)
> > > >  			sshdr->ascq = sense_buffer[3];
> > > > +		if (sb_len > 4)
> > > > +			sshdr->overflow = ((sense_buffer[4] & 0x80) != 0);
> > > >  		if (sb_len > 7)
> > > >  			sshdr->additional_length = sense_buffer[7];
> > > >  	} else {
> > > >  		/*
> > > >  		 * fixed format
> > > >  		 */
> > > > -		if (sb_len > 2)
> > > > +		if (sb_len > 2) {
> > > > +			sshdr->overflow = ((sense_buffer[2] & 0x10) != 0);
> > > >  			sshdr->sense_key = (sense_buffer[2] & 0xf);
> > > > +		}
> > > >  		if (sb_len > 7) {
> > > >  			sb_len = (sb_len < (sense_buffer[7] + 8)) ?
> > > >  					 sb_len : (sense_buffer[7] + 8);
> > > 
> > > This isn't the right way to do it:  The overflow bit is a recent
> > > introduction in SPC-4.  The correct way to tell if we have an overflow
> > > or not is to look at the additional sense length and compare it to the
> > > allocation length; this will work for everything.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I am not sure that the allocation length that was sent
> > to the device is always available.
> 
> Well, yes it is, we just don't store it.  scsi_normalize_sense() takes
> as input the length of the sense buffer we gave it.  If we want an
> overflow indication, we can certainly compare that against the
> additional length (assuming we have enough bytes to get the additional
> length).
> 
> >   I will look into this more closely
> > but it appeared to me that e.g. FC drivers like qla2xxx get the sense
> > data automatically from the HBA firmware.  In the case of that driver
> > the host sense buffer size looks like it is hard-coded to 32 bytes,
> > for all I know the firmware might only asking for 18 bytes.
> 
> You mean for their ACA emulation in the transport?  They have to be
> picking up at least the standard minimum in order not to be in
> violation, surely?

I'm sure that's the case, I just don't know if the minimum is big
enough.  See below.

> 
> > Of course, for a normal REQUEST SENSE command where the allocation
> > length is in the CDB, it would indeed be easy to add a check against
> > the additional sense length.
> > 
> > > 
> > > I'm not even convinced that overflow is important: for a lot of the
> > > sense probes, we deliberately induce overflows by giving the request
> > > sense command a short buffer.  Printing a warning in scsi_check_sense
> > > will get very noisy very fast.
> > 
> > That would indeed be a problem.  I didn't see this behavior when testing
> > the changes but I'll need to investigate this further.
> > 
> > The purpose of detecting the sense data overflow was to provide some
> > visibility that a device is returning a large amount of sense data that
> > is currently being silently ignored.  In the case of descriptor format
> > sense data, it is possible that a descriptor we want to examine is
> > located after one or more other descriptors, and we might not get it
> > at all if the buffer isn't large enough.
> 
> But why should we care?  A lot of the time it will be spewing
> descriptors with irrelevant FRU information.  I really think printing
> there's been an overflow isn't a good idea.  I'm not sure there's much
> use in the sshdr indicating there's been one.  It *may* be useful to
> indicate how big the allocation length should have been, but I'm not
> even convinced of that, since the data is now lost.

My thinking was that it was important to log the fact that the device
had reported a Unit Attention queue overflow, which is reported in a
sense key specific descriptor, so I was concerned that if the sense
buffer wasn't big enough, the host would never see that there had
been a UA queue overflow.  That was why I had added the logging of
a sense buffer overflow.  I wasn't so much interested in reporting
sense buffer overflow for its own sake.

So, as it stands right now, I think I'll remove the 1/9 component
of the patch set, unless there is consensus that it is really needed.

> 
> James
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-18 16:27 [PATCH RFC 0/9] [SCSI] Enhanced sense and Unit Attention handling Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] [SCSI] Detect overflow of sense data buffer Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-18 16:46   ` James Bottomley
2013-01-21  7:26     ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-21  8:58       ` James Bottomley
2013-01-21 17:42       ` Douglas Gilbert
2013-01-22 15:10       ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-23  7:16         ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-22 15:08     ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-23 10:44       ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-23 13:06       ` James Bottomley
2013-01-23 21:21         ` Ewan Milne [this message]
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] [SCSI] Generate uevent on sd capacity change Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] [SCSI] Add a kernel config option for enhanced Unit Attention support Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] [SCSI] Rename scsi_evt_xxx to sdev_evt_xxx and scsi_event to sdev_event Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-22 17:33   ` Bart Van Assche
2013-01-23 21:08     ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-22 17:38   ` Bart Van Assche
2013-01-23 20:39     ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] [SCSI] Add support for scsi_target events Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] [SCSI] Generate uevents for certain Unit Attention codes Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] [SCSI] Add sysfs support for enhanced Unit Attention handling Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] [SCSI] Add sense and Unit Attention generation to scsi_debug Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-19 18:43   ` Douglas Gilbert
2013-01-22 15:12     ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-18 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] [SCSI] Streamline detection of FM/EOM/ILI status Ewan D. Milne
2013-01-24  0:19 ` [PATCH RFC 0/9] [SCSI] Enhanced sense and Unit Attention handling Bart Van Assche
2013-01-24 11:38   ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-24 14:00     ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-24 14:01     ` Mike Christie
2013-01-24 22:02       ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-24 22:47         ` Mike Christie
2013-01-24 14:38     ` Bart Van Assche
2013-01-24 14:51       ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-24 15:00         ` Mike Christie
2013-01-24 15:15           ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-24 22:00             ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-26 18:20             ` Mike Christie
2013-01-28  6:56               ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-28 15:05       ` Jeremy Linton
2013-01-28 15:44         ` Bart Van Assche
2013-01-28 15:48           ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-01-28 20:26             ` James Bottomley
2013-01-28 15:52           ` Jeremy Linton
2013-01-28 16:04             ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-28 16:18             ` Mike Christie
2013-01-29  5:01         ` Shyam_Iyer
2013-01-24 13:53   ` Ewan Milne
2013-01-31 16:27 ` Ewan Milne

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