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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "Liu Ping Fan" <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"qemu-devel Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org list:PowerPC" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH v3 11/14] ioport: Switch dispatching to memory core layer
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:35:32 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1373628932.19894.158.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02433CA4-954D-4C56-A4A4-7BC0D62638C0@suse.de>

On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 05:18 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> We model a single system wide io space today and access to that one
> happens through you pci host controller. I just messed up the
> terminology here.

Single system wide IO space is broken. We have separate IO space per
PHB. That was working afaik.

In any case, I completely object to all that business with conversion in
bridges.

That's fundamentally WRONG.

The whole business of endianness in qemu is a mess. In the end what
matters and the only thing that does is:

 * The endianness of a given memory access by the guest (which may or
may not be the endianness of the guest -> MSR:LE, byteswap load/store
instsructions, etc..)

vs.

 * The endianness of the target device register (and I say register ...
a framebuffer does NOT have endianness per-se and thus accesses to BAR
mapping a "memory" range (framebuffer, ROM, ...) should go such that the
*byte order* of individual bytes is preserved, which typically means
untranslated).

Unless they are completely broken (and those exist, don't get me wrong,
though mostly they are a thing of a past long gone), bridges and busses
have no effect on endianness.

So I'm not sure what you guys are up to, but from what I read, it's
wrong, and the fact at this stage is that your broke IO space (and thus
virtio and VGA) on powerpc (including pseries).

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-12 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-22  6:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/14] Refactor portio dispatching Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/14] adlib: replace register_ioport* Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/14] applesmc: " Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/14] wdt_ib700: " Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/14] i82374: " Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/14] prep: " Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/14] vt82c686: " Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/14] Privatize register_ioport_read/write Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/14] isa: implement isa_is_ioport_assigned via memory_region_find Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/14] vmware-vga: Accept unaligned I/O accesses Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/14] xen: Mark fixed platform I/O as unaligned Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/14] ioport: Switch dispatching to memory core layer Jan Kiszka
2013-06-23 20:50   ` Hervé Poussineau
2013-06-24  6:07     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-11 12:29       ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-11 12:34         ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-11 12:46           ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-11 12:48             ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-11 13:28               ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-11 13:35                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-11 22:30                 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-11 22:32                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-12  3:18                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-12 11:35                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-07-12 17:04                       ` Hervé Poussineau
2013-07-12 19:06                         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-12 22:59                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-12 22:39                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-12 17:49                       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-12 18:26                         ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-12 22:50                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-12 23:10                             ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-12 23:49                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-15 14:01                               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-15 14:10                                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-15 14:16                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-12 22:44                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-13 14:38             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-13 15:22               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-13 18:11                 ` Hervé Poussineau
2013-07-14  6:15                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-14 13:05                   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-14 14:58                     ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-14 15:18                       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-14 16:50                         ` Peter Maydell
2013-07-16  7:18                         ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-16  7:33                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 16:59                             ` Hervé Poussineau
2013-07-16 17:12                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-12 12:56           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-07-12 14:30             ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-19 11:09         ` [Qemu-devel] BUG: " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-07-19 12:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-19 15:48             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-07-20  0:55               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-07-20  1:11                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-07-20 10:11                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-20 20:53                     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2013-07-21 15:13                     ` Hervé Poussineau
2013-07-22 10:25                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-24  8:45     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 " Jan Kiszka
2013-07-12 19:36     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 " Anthony Liguori
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 12/14] ioport: Remove unused old dispatching services Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/14] vmport: Disentangle read handler type from portio Jan Kiszka
2013-06-22  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 14/14] ioport: Move portio types to ioport.h Jan Kiszka
2013-06-23 20:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/14] Refactor portio dispatching Hervé Poussineau

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