From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758703Ab3GPDeq (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:34:46 -0400 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122]:2124 "EHLO hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758416Ab3GPDeo (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:34:44 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Odoa/2vY c=1 sm=0 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:17 a=Drc5e87SC40A:10 a=yDfxGvREtdsA:10 a=5SG0PmZfjMsA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=meVymXHHAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=5Bi_wUEe0twA:10 a=Fle5PrRz4v9UuKZFbVoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=cYxM7-Sxo31LLYcZ:21 a=piaoTXjHg1i39VXY:21 a=Sro2XwOs0tJUSHxCKfOySw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 67.255.60.225 Message-ID: <1373945681.17876.262.camel@gandalf.local.home> Subject: Re: [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review) From: Steven Rostedt To: NeilBrown Cc: Guenter Roeck , Sarah Sharp , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , stable , Darren Hart , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Willy Tarreau Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:34:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20130716131446.373ec08b@notabene.brown> References: <20130715180403.GD15531@xanatos> <20130715184642.GE15531@xanatos> <20130715195316.GF15531@xanatos> <20130715204135.GH15531@xanatos> <1373926109.17876.221.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130715223615.GI15531@xanatos> <20130715231555.GA24650@roeck-us.net> <1373933850.17876.224.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130716131446.373ec08b@notabene.brown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:14 +1000, NeilBrown wrote: > Surely there is an enormous difference between being required to defend your > position against rational and forceful argument, and being required to defend > it against irrelevant name calling. Sure, but I don't think there's really much name calling in the kernel community. I just scanned a large number of LKML emails, and they all seemed rather technical, and no personal attacks at all. And that included several emails from Linus as well. Probably the strongest email came from Thomas Gleixner, but even that didn't contain any personal name calling. Mostly he called stuff "crap" but that was about the code and claims that the code did, but not about the person. There are a few times that Linus gets a bit colorful with his criticisms, but that's really the minority of the email and not the overall tone. I think Linus picks his battles. Sometimes he goes overboard, but he's human. But I still think he's running this ship well. -- Steve