From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754644Ab3GTREj (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:04:39 -0400 Received: from shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk ([88.96.1.126]:59244 "EHLO shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754456Ab3GTREh (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:04:37 -0400 Message-ID: <1374339860.16533.6.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML From: Ben Hutchings To: Felipe Contreras Cc: Ingo Molnar , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Stefano Stabellini , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stable , Chris Ball , Linus Torvalds , Willy Tarreau Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:04:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1373944014.17876.255.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E4BFA9.1030600@zytor.com> <1373991399.6458.6.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E59F79.1040903@zytor.com> <20130717144043.GA16513@xanatos> <20130719120841.GH26716@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qxYVvugMg9o4ZSgFFznC" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.4.101 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ben@decadent.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shadbolt.decadent.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-qxYVvugMg9o4ZSgFFznC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 13:42 -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > * Felipe Contreras wrote: >=20 > >> As Linus already pointed out, not everybody has to work with everybody= . > > > > That's not the point though, the point is to potentially roughly double > > the creative brain capacity of the Linux kernel project. >=20 > Unfortunately that's impossible; we all know there aren't as many > women programmers as there are men. In some countries, though not all. But we also know (or should realise) that the gender ratio among programmers in general is much less unbalanced than in some free software communities including the Linux kernel developers. > So there's absolutely *nothing* > the Linux kernel can do to double the creative brain capacity of the > Linux kernel project (at least with respect to women). > > At best that is a societal/academic/professional issue, not a Linux issue= . [...] There is a broader societal issue, but that doesn't mean that there isn't also a problem at the level of individual developer communities. Ben. --=20 Ben Hutchings Humans are not rational beings; they are rationalising beings. --=-qxYVvugMg9o4ZSgFFznC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUAUerDFOe/yOyVhhEJAQpgqQ//WfSkDuLGy0m1lNsxP0lRi3tOuZjKN2El q7coQwqQOQD70MIeCidn4UHkVmAbfuPA9rEOGvOvwDExAtcfrB/jCriRO30HtD/d Y7cMYh+ydhZpknEQeNzW+Xm9VQtOp8wIGmcTvaKxT2a6hWYsQSyjrck3wEEOtdBB Tjmvjk/pADFMBSuKNHi7w/w2vMQE2eT/uvOr/49bwBP86dfgGxr64h17CHNHY7YD FI+1BiWFGA8JB6yp1znKSRDaiGb2Vy3Kt/ZeJ4eASInesTNFwCdANpzF2A7rcPzi cNFerVbrPeS/5UNWWztEaMNxzqMXuDtLRvzCZ0yejNMk1MK28eqi3g+6qJqjyAxe GiwH5GVZ7F7Tffh+LxFHPGvJbFRHKST/wkjkat/OMChpTaSz7Xm83mDSimr99jsL a+zCrh2HutSFvWRh6/3fWHSdwQpoc+6WXNVgNGNqyPqpX38cFR5o9+aLP5TO6p/1 0j3O1KzrC3fFZnRiup2rETNfoB+JZ8BIPiWdeSbk0tpnRFGtffjpkgMqhBnCX95w LTSEO2Z9CTwVBoDWK8vzBsXAwb5nGDajIun6crzRLXtSA1tQnoRf5K4eTofffdIo EZTil+BXXahSKtrWsUFh66sNSKjsNlJInv6uaHZV4fOak6kNPKzs1ec4kp5cFntI Oody3iZK17g= =WAY+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qxYVvugMg9o4ZSgFFznC--