From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753487Ab3JFANx (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:13:53 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com ([209.85.219.50]:33576 "EHLO mail-oa0-f50.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752592Ab3JFANv convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:13:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 19:13:48 -0500 From: Rob Landley Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] vfs: Detach mounts on unlink. To: Al Viro Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , Miklos Szeredi , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Linux-Fsdevel , Kernel Mailing List , Andy Lutomirski , Linus Torvalds References: <87li281wx6.fsf_-_@xmission.com> <1381014462.1974.162@driftwood> <20131005231915.GW13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20131005231915.GW13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (from viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk on Sat Oct 5 18:19:15 2013) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.4.11 Message-Id: <1381018428.1974.165@driftwood> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10/05/2013 06:19:15 PM, Al Viro wrote: > On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 06:07:42PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > > A todo item I've had _forever_ is fixing chroot() to not be broken > > so that you can trivially break out of a chroot via: > > > > chdir("/"); > > mkdir("sub"); > > chroot("sub"); > > chdir("./../../../../../../../.."); > > > > (Because chroot() affects where "/" points but NOT where "." points > > to, and chdir does an == check with the dentry "/" points at to know > > when to stop, so if you move "/" under "." you can back up to the > > actual root of the tree.) > > > > The above is why lxc uses pivot_root() instead of chroot(). > > > > These days, we have multiple mount trees so there's no reason > > chroot() can't trim the process local mount tree (creating a new > > bind mount if necessary). Except my todo list runneth over and I > > haven't had a chance to dig in and see what would be involved. (Last > > time I brought this up people were wondering why chroot() didn't > > just move "." to the new "/" if it wasn't under it. I had no idea, > > still don't.) > > 1) RTFUNIXFAQ. chroot() never has been root-proof. > > 2) your "fix" isn't - it will lead to mounts done by chrooted process > not affecting other processes in the same namespace. So if I write a lightweight container setup command, I need to use pivot_root just like lxc does? Rob