On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 13:37 -0700, David Lang wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > As an example, imagine a platform with the bootloader and kernel on > > read-only media. The platform can assert that the kernel is trusted even > > if there's no measurement of the kernel. > > Trusted by who? The platform. If you don't trust the platform's ability to make that decision then that's something that informs your own behaviour, not the platform's. > Alan is saying measured because then if it matches what the owner of that device > intends it's trusted, but just because you trust it doesn't mean that I trust > it, and it doesn't mean that the russian government should trust it, etc. "Measured" has a specific meaning. If you trust a file based on its source rather than some property of the file itself, you're not measuring it. -- Matthew Garrett {.n++%ݶw{.n+{G{ayʇڙ,jfhz_(階ݢj"mG?&~iOzv^m ?I