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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-netdev <linux-netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: net_timedelta() affected by settimeofday() (was: [patch 12/13] net: mac80211: Remove silly timespec dance)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:35:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1402562114.8095.3.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1406121017500.5170@nanos>

+netdev, Stephen

On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 10:19 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Johannes Berg wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 23:59 +0000, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > 
> > > +	msrmnt = ktime_to_ms(net_timedelta(skb_arv));
> > 
> > This is probably more of a question about net_timedelta(), but is
> > ktime_get_real() really appropriate for duration measurements? Isn't
> > that non-monotonic?
> 
> Well, it's monotonic, but might be affected by settimeofday().

Right, but isn't that odd? Suddenly your delay measurement here might be
minutes, hours, or years if you settimeofday() between timestamping and
calculating the delta. That seems very strange to me, why would that be
the right behaviour in any way?

Now, it seems that there are only two current users of net_timedelta()
(in DCCP) so perhaps it's not too late to change some of this?

Maybe in general the skb timestamp should be based on a different clock
and only adjusted to real time when used in userspace?

johannes



  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-12  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-11 23:59 [patch 00/13] time: Tree wide cleanup of interfaces and crap Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 01/13] acct: Use ktime_get_ts() Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-21 20:36   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 02/13] tsacct: " Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-21 20:37   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 03/13] delayacct: " Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-21 20:36   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 05/13] sound: " Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12 10:42   ` Takashi Iwai
2014-06-12 10:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12 10:59       ` Takashi Iwai
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 04/13] net: mac80211: " Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  6:53   ` Johannes Berg
2014-06-12  9:03     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-12  9:03       ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-06-12  9:51       ` Julia.Lawall
2014-06-12  9:51         ` Julia.Lawall at lip6.fr
2014-06-12 10:49         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12 10:49           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 06/13] sound: intel8x0: Use ktime and ktime_get() Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 08/13] firewire: Use ktime_get_ts() Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12 12:35   ` Stefan Richter
2014-06-12 14:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-21 20:37   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 07/13] kdb: " Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-21 20:37   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 10/13] time: Remove do_posix_clock_monotonic_gettime() Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 09/13] fork: Use ktime_get_ts() Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-21 20:37   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 11/13] wireless: mwifiex: Use the proper interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  3:22   ` Bing Zhao
2014-06-12  8:31     ` [patch V2] " Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  8:38       ` Johannes Berg
2014-06-13 18:28         ` Bing Zhao
2014-06-13 18:28           ` Bing Zhao
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 12/13] net: mac80211: Remove silly timespec dance Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-11 23:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  6:49   ` Johannes Berg
2014-06-12  8:19     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  8:35       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2014-06-12  8:39         ` net_timedelta() affected by settimeofday() (was: [patch 12/13] net: mac80211: Remove silly timespec dance) Johannes Berg
2014-06-12  8:57           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  9:21             ` Johannes Berg
2014-06-12 14:09               ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12 14:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-13 17:58                 ` Johannes Berg
2014-06-11 23:59 ` [patch 13/13] tomoyo: Use sensible time interface Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  0:08   ` John Stultz
2014-06-12  0:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12  0:28       ` John Stultz
2014-06-12  0:36         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-12 11:53   ` Tetsuo Handa
2014-06-21 20:37   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner

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