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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Austin Schuh <austin@peloton-tech.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Filesystem lockup with CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 05:32:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1403926333.5113.12.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANGgnMZrx1s5AomG-L_F74215RE1uJOekTjYmLX0voG4NgakTg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2014-06-27 at 18:18 -0700, Austin Schuh wrote:

> It would be more context switches, but I wonder if we could kick the
> workqueue logic completely out of the scheduler into a thread.  Have
> the scheduler increment/decrement an atomic pool counter, and wake up
> the monitoring thread to spawn new threads when needed?  That would
> get rid of the recursive pool lock problem, and should reduce
> scheduler latency if we would need to spawn a new thread.

I was wondering the same thing, and not only for workqueue, but also the
plug pulling.  It's kind of a wart to have that stuff sitting in the
hear of the scheduler in the first place, would be nice if it just went
away.  When a task can't help itself, you _could_ wake a proxy do that
for you.  Trouble is, I can imagine that being a heck of a lot of
context switches with some loads.. and who's gonna help the helper when
he blocks while trying to help?

-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-28  3:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-14  2:29 Filesystem lockup with CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT Austin Schuh
2014-05-14  2:29 ` Austin Schuh
2014-05-21  6:23 ` Austin Schuh
2014-05-21  6:23   ` Austin Schuh
2014-05-21  7:33   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-21  7:33     ` Richard Weinberger
2014-06-26 19:50     ` Austin Schuh
2014-06-26 22:35       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-27  0:07         ` Austin Schuh
2014-06-27  3:22           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-27 12:57           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-27 14:01             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-27 17:34               ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-27 17:54                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-27 18:07                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-27 18:19                     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-27 19:11                       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-28  1:18                       ` Austin Schuh
2014-06-28  3:32                         ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2014-06-28  6:20                           ` Austin Schuh
2014-06-28  7:11                             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-27 14:24           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-28  4:51             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-01  0:12             ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-01  0:53               ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-05 20:26                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-07-06  4:55                   ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-01  3:01             ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-01 19:32               ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-03 23:08                 ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-04  4:42                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-21 19:30 John Blackwood
2014-05-21 19:30 ` John Blackwood
2014-05-21 21:59 ` Austin Schuh
2014-05-21 21:59   ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-05 20:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-07-05 20:36   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-07-05 19:30 Jan de Kruyf
2014-07-07  8:48 Jan de Kruyf
2014-07-07 13:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-07-07 16:23 ` Austin Schuh
2014-07-08  8:03   ` Jan de Kruyf
2014-07-08 16:09     ` Austin Schuh

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