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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] Add vmware_hw to xl.cfg
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 10:39:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1410255568.8217.65.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <540E00AB.1000501@terremark.com>

On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 15:16 -0400, Don Slutz wrote:
> On 09/08/14 09:17, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 11:33 -0400, Don Slutz wrote:
> >> If non-zero then
> >>    Return VMware's cpuid leaves.
> >>    Not doing the hardcoded IRQ9 on PIIX4 ACPI PM.
> > Please can you say a words about why this is and what the implications
> > are?
> 
> Duplicate -- windows activation.
> 
> >>    Force use of VMware's VGA in QEMU.
> >>
> >> The support of hypervisor cpuid leaves has not been agreed to.
> > Who needs to agree to this? Just us or do we need to be seeking
> > consensus with other hypervisors?
> 
> Possible consensus with other hypervisors.    The 2 that are an issue
> if MicroSoft (Hyper-V, viridian) and VMware.  Xen is not the issue.
> 
> 
> >> So based on this, I picked the order:
> >>
> >> 0x40000000 is viridian, vmware or xen
> >> 0x40000100 is vmware or xen
> >> 0x40000200 is xen
> > Which is another way of saying that the enabled options will be
> > presented in the order viridian, vmware, xen.
> >
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >> diff --git a/docs/man/xl.cfg.pod.5 b/docs/man/xl.cfg.pod.5
> >> index f1fc906..34fb021 100644
> >> --- a/docs/man/xl.cfg.pod.5
> >> +++ b/docs/man/xl.cfg.pod.5
> >> @@ -1139,6 +1139,12 @@ some other Operating Systems and in some circumstance can prevent
> >>   Xen's own paravirtualisation interfaces for HVM guests from being
> >>   used.
> >>   
> >> +=item B<vmware_hw=NUMBER>
> >> +
> >> +Turns on or off the exposure of VMware cpuid.  The number is the
> >> +VMware's hardware version number, where 0 is off.  If on it also
> >> +forces the use of VMware's VGA in QEMU.
> > Do you have a reference of the non-zero values of this field? How can a
> > user determine what the correct number to use is?
> 
> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003746
> 
> For most uses, any non-zero is good enough.  Where it matters is how
> QEMU presents emulated hardware.  VMware changes pci config space
> based on this number which is stored in a .vmx file.
> 
> Is vmware_hw too short?  Should I use vmware_virtual_hardware_version?
> 
> or just adjust the xl.cfg.pod.5 description?

Just updating the description to give users some clue as to what number
they should use would be enough.

I think you are implying that there are occasions where a user would
care about which specific value is used, so turning this into a boolean
isn't good enough. But an enum might be appropriate. (see below)

> > Other than parroting this value back to the guest in a cpuid leaf does
> > this value control anything else? If so then we may want to consider
> > something like an enum to allow us to advertise more precisely which
> > versions of vmware we are prepared to ape, but at the least we need to
> > range check this input somewhere along the way.
> 
> See above, mostly just QEMU.

What does qemu do with a number which it doesn't understand, perhaps
corresponding to a newer vmware version which it hasn't learnt about
yet?

This sort of issue is why I was proposing an enum, or at least some sort
of range checking.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-09  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-01 15:33 [PATCH v2 0/3] Xen VMware tools support Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Add vmware_hw to xl.cfg Don Slutz
2014-09-02  7:28   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-02 18:24     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03  7:45       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 10:59         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03 12:33           ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 12:51             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:21           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:47             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:55               ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:20         ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:56           ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 14:07             ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 18:39               ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 22:11               ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 23:34                 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 14:21             ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-08 15:16               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-08 15:27                 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-08 22:41                   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:17   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:27     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 13:41       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 14:18         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 19:16     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09  9:39       ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2014-09-09 17:02         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-10  9:30           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-10 17:44             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-12 12:25             ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-08 22:14     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] vmport: Add VMware provided include files Don Slutz
2014-09-02  7:34   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-02 18:46     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03  7:51       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 12:38         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call Don Slutz
2014-09-02  8:16   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03  0:55     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03  8:25       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 18:28         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:35   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 16:57     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09  9:36       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-09 17:31         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09 19:22           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-10  9:32           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-10 17:25             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Xen VMware tools support Jan Beulich
2014-09-01 18:14   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:03 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:18   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:42     ` Ian Campbell

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