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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] async buffered diskio read for
 userspace apps
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:26:54 -0800
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On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 08:48 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 07:49:41AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > 
> > For fio, it likely doesn't matter.  Most people download the repository
> > and compile it themselves when building the tool. In that case, there's
> > no licence violation anyway (all GPL issues, including technical licence
> > incompatibility, manifest on distribution not on use).  It is a problem
> > for the distributors, but they're well used to these type of self
> > inflicted wounds.
> 
> That's true, but it is setting a bear-trap for distributors.

It's hardly a bear trap ... this type of annoyance is what they're used
to.  Some even just ignore it on the grounds of no harm no foul.  The
first thing they'll ask when they notice is for the protagonists to dual
licence.

> Might be better to keep the code repositories separate so at
> lease people have a *chance* of noticing there's a problem
> here.

Actually, it might be better to *resolve* the problem before people
notice ... if the combination is considered useful, of course.

James


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Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] async buffered diskio read for
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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:26:54 -0800
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On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 08:48 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 07:49:41AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > 
> > For fio, it likely doesn't matter.  Most people download the repository
> > and compile it themselves when building the tool. In that case, there's
> > no licence violation anyway (all GPL issues, including technical licence
> > incompatibility, manifest on distribution not on use).  It is a problem
> > for the distributors, but they're well used to these type of self
> > inflicted wounds.
> 
> That's true, but it is setting a bear-trap for distributors.

It's hardly a bear trap ... this type of annoyance is what they're used
to.  Some even just ignore it on the grounds of no harm no foul.  The
first thing they'll ask when they notice is for the protagonists to dual
licence.

> Might be better to keep the code repositories separate so at
> lease people have a *chance* of noticing there's a problem
> here.

Actually, it might be better to *resolve* the problem before people
notice ... if the combination is considered useful, of course.

James


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