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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Jarod Wilson <jarod@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	jiri@mellanox.com, daniel@iogearbox.net, tom@herbertland.com,
	j.vosburgh@gmail.com, vfalico@gmail.com,
	gospo@cumulusnetworks.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 2/4] net: add rx_nohandler stat counter
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 14:57:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1454972260.7627.368.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160208113821.0ba26eb0@xeon-e3>

On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 11:38 -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

> The iproute2 command can be fixed, but adding dependency on size of response
> gets gross fast.  Imagine when 4 more fields get added, this doesn't scale well.

Really ? I see no problem at all doing the proper tests.

> 
> Also, the definition of userspace ABI is that structures can't change.
> There are many other utilities that are not visible that may get broken.
> Traditionally Linux has guaranteed that programs will continue to work
> no matter how they were coded.

Stephen, we have been doing that for years.

Whole point of TLV is that it allows us to add new fields at the end of
the structures.

Yes, some buggy programs might need a fix.

Look at iproute2, you were the one adding in 2004 code to cope with
various tcp_info sizes.

So 12 years later, you cannot say it does not work anymore.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-08 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-22 19:11 [RFC PATCH net] net/core: don't increment rx_dropped on inactive slaves Jarod Wilson
2016-01-22 20:59 ` Jay Vosburgh
2016-01-23  8:26   ` Jiri Pirko
2016-01-23  8:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2016-01-23 14:19 ` Andy Gospodarek
2016-01-23 15:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-26 21:14   ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-26 21:21     ` David Miller
2016-01-26 21:36       ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-26 21:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-26 21:35       ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-25  6:42 ` David Miller
2016-01-25 14:27   ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-26  4:45     ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-27 20:21 ` [PATCH net 0/4] net: add rx_unhandled stat counter Jarod Wilson
2016-01-27 20:21   ` [PATCH net 1/4] " Jarod Wilson
2016-01-27 20:21   ` [PATCH net 2/4] net-procfs: show rx_unhandled counters Jarod Wilson
2016-01-27 20:21   ` [PATCH net 3/4] team: track sum of rx_unhandled for all slaves Jarod Wilson
2016-01-27 20:21   ` [PATCH net 4/4] bond: " Jarod Wilson
2016-01-27 21:09   ` [PATCH net 0/4] net: add rx_unhandled stat counter Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28  6:02     ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28  6:10       ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28  6:18       ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28 13:00         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 14:38           ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28 14:42             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 14:44               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 14:46                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 15:11                   ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28 13:00       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 15:49 ` [PATCH net v2 0/4] net: add and use rx_nohandler " Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28 15:49   ` [PATCH net v2 1/4] net/core: relax BUILD_BUG_ON in netdev_stats_to_stats64 Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28 15:49   ` [PATCH net v2 2/4] net: add rx_nohandler stat counter Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28 15:49   ` [PATCH net v2 3/4] team: track sum of rx_nohandler for all slaves Jarod Wilson
2016-01-28 15:49   ` [PATCH net v2 4/4] bond: " Jarod Wilson
2016-01-30  3:37   ` [PATCH net v2 0/4] net: add and use rx_nohandler stat counter David Miller
2016-01-30 18:16     ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-30 18:19   ` [PATCH net v2 1/4] net/core: relax BUILD_BUG_ON in netdev_stats_to_stats64 Jarod Wilson
2016-01-30 18:34     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-30 20:39       ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-30 20:53         ` Jarod Wilson
2016-01-30 23:26           ` David Miller
2016-01-31 18:07             ` Jarod Wilson
2016-02-01 23:51   ` [PATCH net v3 0/4] net: add and use rx_nohandler stat counter Jarod Wilson
2016-02-01 23:51     ` [PATCH net v3 1/4] net/core: relax BUILD_BUG_ON in netdev_stats_to_stats64 Jarod Wilson
2016-02-01 23:51     ` [PATCH net v3 2/4] net: add rx_nohandler stat counter Jarod Wilson
2016-02-07 19:37       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-02-07 19:46         ` David Miller
2016-02-07 20:19           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-02-08 18:32             ` Jarod Wilson
2016-02-08 19:38               ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-02-08 22:57                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2016-02-09  8:40                   ` David Miller
2016-02-09 10:56                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-02-09 19:17                       ` [PATCH net-next iproute2] iplink: display rx nohandler stats Stephen Hemminger
2016-02-09 23:51                         ` Jarod Wilson
2016-02-10  1:41                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-02-10  4:52                             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-02-10 13:20                               ` Jarod Wilson
2016-02-10 15:06                                 ` Andy Gospodarek
2016-02-01 23:51     ` [PATCH net v3 3/4] team: track sum of rx_nohandler for all slaves Jarod Wilson
2016-02-01 23:51     ` [PATCH net v3 4/4] bond: " Jarod Wilson
2016-02-06  8:00     ` [PATCH net v3 0/4] net: add and use rx_nohandler stat counter David Miller
2016-01-28 16:22 ` [PATCH net v3 1/4] net/core: relax BUILD_BUG_ON in netdev_stats_to_stats64 Jarod Wilson

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