From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932409AbcHOWYM (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:24:12 -0400 Received: from gate.crashing.org ([63.228.1.57]:48677 "EHLO gate.crashing.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932232AbcHOWYK (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:24:10 -0400 Message-ID: <1471299799.12231.121.camel@kernel.crashing.org> Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 3/4] pci: Determine actual VPD size on first access From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: "Rustad, Mark D" Cc: Alex Williamson , Alexander Duyck , Alexey Kardashevskiy , Bjorn Helgaas , Hannes Reinecke , "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Babu Moger , Paul Mackerras , "santosh@chelsio.com" , Netdev Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:23:19 +1000 In-Reply-To: <197F6532-FC5E-4D72-976D-4207BAD8D83E@intel.com> References: <1452684335-46107-1-git-send-email-hare@suse.de> <1452684335-46107-4-git-send-email-hare@suse.de> <20160209210458.GB32530@localhost> <1470787409.3015.81.camel@kernel.crashing.org> <1470873296.3015.117.camel@kernel.crashing.org> <20160811141700.4f4faabb@t450s.home> <1470978669.3015.155.camel@kernel.crashing.org> <197F6532-FC5E-4D72-976D-4207BAD8D83E@intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.4 (3.20.4-1.fc24) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2016-08-15 at 17:59 +0000, Rustad, Mark D wrote: > > Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > We may want some kind of "strict" vs. "relaxed" model here to > > differenciate the desktop user wanting to give a function to his/her > > windows partition and doesn't care about strict isolation vs. the cloud > > data center. > > I don't think desktop users appreciate hangs any more than anyone else, and   > that is one of the symptoms that can arise here without the vfio   > coordination. And can happen with it as well.... Put it this way, we have a hole the size of a football field and we are spending all that time "plugging" it by putting a 3 foot gate in the middle of it... ugh. VFIO shouldn't try to get between the device driver and the HW, it doesn't work. It cannot work. Cheers, Ben.