From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B89C49D for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 19:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bedivere.hansenpartnership.com (bedivere.hansenpartnership.com [66.63.167.143]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBE4246 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 19:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1472241517.5189.88.camel@HansenPartnership.com> From: James Bottomley To: Matthew Garrett Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:58:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <1472225332.2751.56.camel@redhat.com> <1472230114.2751.67.camel@redhat.com> <1472241199.5189.86.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Linus Torvalds , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Fri, 2016-08-26 at 15:55 -0400, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:53 PM, James Bottomley > wrote: > > On Fri, 2016-08-26 at 15:45 -0400, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > We agree that quiet negotiation is the preferred tactic. We agree > > > that lawsuits may be necessary as a final resort. It doesn't seem > > > like we're disagreeing on anything fundamental in that respect. > > > What Karen has suggested is an opportunity for the kernel > > > community to give clear input into when that final resort should > > > be acceptable. > > > > I think the disagreement is over *when* you give up and go for the > > final resort. And who you trust to take that decision. > > Doesn't that sound like a worthwhile thing to discuss at Kernel > Summit? Give me a framework for how you'd propose agreeing a resolution on that one. I'm asking because it's very much something that's likely to produce a lot of heat and very little light. James