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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jhladky@redhat.com,
	mingo@kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] sched,fair: remove effective_load
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:34:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1498505689.13083.49.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170626161250.GD4941@worktop>

On Mon, 2017-06-26 at 18:12 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:20:54AM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> > Oh, indeed.  I guess in wake_affine() we should test
> > whether the CPUs are in the same NUMA node, rather than
> > doing cpus_share_cache() ?
> 
> Well, since select_idle_sibling() is on LLC; the early test on
> cpus_share_cache(prev,this) seems to actually make sense.
> 
> But then cutting out all the other bits seems wrong. Not in the least
> because !NUMA_BALACING should also still keep working.

Even when !NUMA_BALANCING, I suspect it makes little sense
to compare the loads just one the cores in question, since
select_idle_sibling() will likely move the task somewhere
else.

I suspect we want to compare the load on the whole LLC
for that reason, even with NUMA_BALANCING disabled.

> > Or, alternatively, have an update_numa_stats() variant
> > for numa_wake_affine() that works on the LLC level?
> 
> I think we want to retain the existing behaviour for everything
> larger than LLC, and when NUMA_BALANCING, smaller than NUMA.

What do you mean by this, exactly?

How does the "existing behaviour" of only looking at
the load on two cores make sense when doing LLC-level
task placement?

> Also note that your use of task_h_load() in the new numa thing
> suffers
> from exactly the problem effective_load() is trying to solve.

Are you saying task_h_load is wrong in task_numa_compare()
too, then?  Should both use effective_load()?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-26 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-23 16:55 [PATCH 0/4] NUMA improvements with task wakeup and load balancing riel
2017-06-23 16:55 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched,numa: override part of migrate_degrades_locality when idle balancing riel
2017-06-24  6:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-06-24 23:45     ` Rik van Riel
2017-06-24  7:22   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: Override part of migrate_degrades_locality() " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2017-06-23 16:55 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: simplify wake_affine for single socket case riel
2017-06-24  7:22   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Simplify wake_affine() for the " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2017-06-23 16:55 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched,numa: implement numa node level wake_affine riel
2017-06-24  7:23   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: Implement NUMA node level wake_affine() tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2017-06-26 14:43   ` [PATCH 3/4] sched,numa: implement numa node level wake_affine Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-23 16:55 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched,fair: remove effective_load riel
2017-06-24  7:23   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Remove effective_load() tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2017-06-26 14:44   ` [PATCH 4/4] sched,fair: remove effective_load Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-26 14:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-26 14:55       ` Rik van Riel
2017-06-26 15:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-26 15:20           ` Rik van Riel
2017-06-26 16:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-26 19:34               ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2017-06-27  5:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-27 14:55                   ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-01 12:19                     ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Fix wake_affine() for !NUMA_BALANCING Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 19:26                       ` Josef Bacik
2017-08-01 21:43                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-24 22:29                           ` Chris Wilson
2017-08-25 15:46                           ` Chris Wilson
2017-06-27 18:27               ` [PATCH 4/4] sched,fair: remove effective_load Rik van Riel

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