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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: printk: what is going on with additional newlines?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 10:33:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1504027992.2040.30.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzi_Rt6g8aS1RSvszcH6e+=HCDi1g2SDKtEY0BA+cL5VQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2017-08-29 at 10:20 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > That's simply false.
> > 
> > It was never true until you made it a requirement.
> > (it's not a bad requirement, but it did change behavior)
> 
> Oh, it changed behavior, yes (and for kernel code we do that, and
> require people to change).
> 
> But even before it was technically required, it was very much supposed
> to be there as a marker. KERN_CONT has existed for about a decade.

Which is very much not "forever" in kernel terms.

> It was added in commit 474925277671 ("printk: add KERN_CONT
> annotation") back in 2007, with a comment that said - at that time:

Yeah, I remember things too.

>   /*
>    * Annotation for a "continued" line of log printout (only done after a
>    * line that had no enclosing \n). Only to be used by core/arch code
>    * during early bootup (a continued line is not SMP-safe otherwise).
>    */

And note the "core/arch code during bootup" bit.

Look, it's not fundamentally a "bad" requirement.
It was just not "always required".

And silently slipping in the change because you
were unhappy with adding newlines to some printks
was, at best, poor form.

Your change broke a bunch of output.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-29 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15  2:56 [RFC][PATCHv5 00/13] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 01/13] printk: move printk_pending out of per-cpu Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 02/13] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 03/13] printk: add sync printk_emergency API Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 04/13] printk: add enforce_emergency parameter Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 05/13] printk: enable printk offloading Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 06/13] printk: register PM notifier Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15 11:51   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-16  7:31     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-16 12:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-17  5:55         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-17 15:43           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-17 23:19             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 07/13] printk: register syscore notifier Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15 11:56   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-16  6:55     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-16 12:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 08/13] printk: set watchdog_thresh as maximum value for atomic_print_limit Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 09/13] printk: add auto-emergency enforcement mechanism Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 10/13] printk: force printk_kthread to offload printing Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 11/13] printk: always offload printing from user-space processes Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 12/13] printk: do not cond_resched() when we can offload Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-15  2:56 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 13/13] printk: move offloading logic to per-cpu Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-23  8:33 ` [RFC][PATCHv5 00/13] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-28  9:05 ` printk: what is going on with additional newlines? Pavel Machek
2017-08-28 10:28   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-28 12:21     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-28 12:38       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-28 12:46       ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-29 13:40         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-29 16:37           ` Joe Perches
2017-08-29 17:00           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 17:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 20:41               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-29 20:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-02  6:12                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-02 17:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 23:50               ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-29 23:59                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-30  1:03                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-30  1:10                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-30  1:51                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-30  1:52                     ` Joe Perches
2017-08-30  2:25                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-30  2:31                         ` Joe Perches
2017-08-30  2:47                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-30  2:58                             ` Joe Perches
2017-08-30  5:37                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-08 10:18                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-05  9:44                             ` Petr Mladek
2017-09-05  9:59                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-05 12:21                                 ` Petr Mladek
2017-09-05 12:35                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-05 14:18                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-05 13:42                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-06  7:55                                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-09-17  6:26                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-17  9:27                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-17 15:35                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-18  0:46                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-18  2:22                                             ` Joe Perches
2017-09-18  2:41                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-18  2:45                                                 ` Joe Perches
2017-09-18  2:55                                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-18  3:07                                                     ` Joe Perches
2017-09-18  4:42                                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-01 13:19                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-01 17:32                       ` Joe Perches
2017-09-01 20:21                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-04  5:22                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-04  5:41                             ` Joe Perches
2017-09-05 14:54                             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-09-06  2:14                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-06  2:36                               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-04  4:30                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-04  5:24                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-29 17:33             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-29 17:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 18:09                 ` Joe Perches
2017-08-30  1:07                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-30  0:58                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-29 16:48   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 17:10     ` Joe Perches
2017-08-29 17:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 17:33         ` Joe Perches [this message]
2017-08-29 17:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 17:48             ` Joe Perches
2017-08-29 20:24     ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-01  1:40       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-01  2:04         ` Joe Perches
2017-09-01  6:59           ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-01  7:23             ` Joe Perches
2017-09-01  7:29         ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-01 11:13           ` Steven Rostedt

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