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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Magalhaes,
	Guilherme (Brazil R&D-CL)" <guilherme.magalhaes@hpe.com>,
	"linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IMA skips some file measurements
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:39:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1510000742.3320.5.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TU4PR84MB03023D92432F2AA6E9348873FF500@TU4PR84MB0302.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 19:22 +0000, Magalhaes, Guilherme (Brazil R&D-
CL) wrote:
> We are trying to understand why some file measurements are skipped
> by IMA. In some circumstances, it seems that this could lead to an
> incorrect assessment of the integrity of the host. Consider the
> following, example in which we begin with a vulnerable bash binary
> (e.g. Shellshock) and patch it.
> 
> 1. Load vulnerable bash (measured by IMA)
> 2. Patch the bash file
> 3. Load good bash (measured by IMA)
> 4. Change back to vulnerable bash
> 5. Load vulnerable bash (not measured by IMA)
> 
> After step 5, the IMA logs appear to tell you that the system is using a
> good binary, but a vulnerable binary is installed and being used.
> 
> We identified that 'ima_htable.queue' prevented the measurement at
> step 5 since the same vulnerable bash was loaded on step 1 and 5 and
> then its respective hash was already present in 'ima_htable.queue'.
> 
> So in this scenario the last/current file state is not identified using the 
> IMA log. Is it not important to identify through the IMA log whether or 
> not the last known file state is good?
> 
> Does anybody know why 'ima_htable.queue' is preventing already 
> logged file hashes from being re-measured?

Yes, we're trying to limit the number of measurements.  This is a last
check before adding something already measured to the measurement list
and extending the TPM.

For example, a file is removed from dcache, causing the iint to be
deleted as well.  The next access would cause the entry to be re-added 
to the measurement list and extend the TPM for no good reason.

Mimi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-06 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-06 19:22 IMA skips some file measurements Magalhaes, Guilherme (Brazil R&D-CL)
2017-11-06 20:04 ` Mikhail Kurinnoi
2017-11-06 20:20   ` Magalhaes, Guilherme (Brazil R&D-CL)
2017-11-06 20:39 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2017-11-06 21:26   ` Magalhaes, Guilherme (Brazil R&D-CL)
2017-11-06 22:34     ` Mimi Zohar

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