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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
	 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	 Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, x86@kernel.org,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/12] x86/spectre: Add boot time option to select Spectre v2 mitigation
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:53:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1516748034.13558.15.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180123224014.dsbzps4hydt6h7ed@pd.tnic>

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On Tue, 2018-01-23 at 23:40 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> 
> Btw, this came up today: do we have an idea how to detect objects built
> with gcc which has retpoline support?
> 
> The only way I could think of is boot the respective kernel and stare at
> dmesg:
> 
> [    0.064006] Spectre V2 mitigation: LFENCE not serializing. Switching to generic retpoline
> [    0.068003] Spectre V2 mitigation: Vulnerable: Minimal generic ASM retpoline
> 
> and then deduce that it is not a retpoline-enabled compiler:

Right. There *was* a warning during build but we removed that. At the
time, the plan (at least in my head) was to use IBRS instead, if the
retpoline compiler wasn't available. For now we're just going to remain
vulnerable. I'm now wondering if we should reinstate that warning.

> > +retpoline_auto:
> > +     if (boot_cpu_data.x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_AMD) {
> > +     retpoline_amd:
> > +             if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_RDTSC)) {
> > +                     pr_err("LFENCE not serializing. Switching to generic retpoline\n");
> > +                     goto retpoline_generic;
> > +             }
> > +             mode = retp_compiler() ? SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_AMD :
> > +                                      SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_MINIMAL_AMD;
> > +             setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RETPOLINE_AMD);
> > +             setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_RETPOLINE);
> > +     } else {
> > +     retpoline_generic:
> > +             mode = retp_compiler() ? SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_GENERIC :
> > +                                      SPECTRE_V2_RETPOLINE_MINIMAL;
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> but that might not always be an option.
> 
> And it probably should be a more reliable method which we probably could
> use to detect !retpolined modules too.

Andi actually implemented this, but it ended up being watered down
somewhat.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-23 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-11 21:46 [PATCH v8 00/12] Retpoline: Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 01/12] objtool: Detect jumps to retpoline thunks David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:22   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 02/12] objtool: Allow alternatives to be ignored David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:22   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-18 19:09   ` [v8,02/12] " Guenter Roeck
2018-01-18 19:33     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-18 19:41       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-22 19:34         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-22 20:25           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-22 20:27             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-28 21:06             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-29  1:26               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-29 17:15               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-29 17:30                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-22 19:27       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 03/12] x86/retpoline: Add initial retpoline support David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:23   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:58   ` [PATCH v8 03/12] " Tom Lendacky
2018-01-12 10:28     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-12 14:02       ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-14 15:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-14 15:53     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-14 15:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 04/12] x86/spectre: Add boot time option to select Spectre v2 mitigation David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:23   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 22:40   ` [PATCH v8 04/12] " Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 22:53     ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-01-23 23:05       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 22:55     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:05       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-24  0:32         ` Kees Cook
2018-01-24  9:58           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 23:06       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:21       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:24         ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-23 23:45           ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:49             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24  4:26               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-24  9:56                 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24 13:58                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-24 14:03                     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-24 14:22                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 05/12] x86/retpoline/crypto: Convert crypto assembler indirect jumps David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:24   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 06/12] x86/retpoline/entry: Convert entry " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:24   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 07/12] x86/retpoline/ftrace: Convert ftrace " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 08/12] x86/retpoline/hyperv: Convert " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 09/12] x86/retpoline/xen: Convert Xen hypercall " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:25   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 10/12] x86/retpoline/checksum32: Convert assembler " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:26   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 11/12] x86/retpoline/irq32: " David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:26   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2018-01-11 21:46 ` [PATCH v8 12/12] x86/retpoline: Fill return stack buffer on vmexit David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:27   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-11 23:51   ` [PATCH v8 12/12] " Andi Kleen
2018-01-12 11:11     ` [PATCH v8.1 " David Woodhouse
2018-01-12 11:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-12 11:21         ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-12 11:37       ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-14 14:50         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-14 15:28           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-14 15:35         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 12:07         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 12:20           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 12:45             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 15:10               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 15:51                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 16:03                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:56                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 17:00                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 17:05                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-25 17:44                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 18:41                           ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-25 17:10                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-25 17:32                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 17:53                         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 18:04                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 18:32                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-25 19:07                             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 19:10                               ` Borislav Petkov

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