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From: Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: bigeasy@linutronix.de, frederic@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alexander.levin@verizon.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, mchehab@s-opensource.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, hannes@stressinduktion.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, wanpeng.li@hotmail.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	rrendec@arista.com, mingo@kernel.org, sgruszka@redhat.com,
	riel@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] softirq: Per vector deferment to workqueue
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 20:30:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1518121820.2849.17.camel@arista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180208.152236.2148696725742511754.davem@davemloft.net>

On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 15:22 -0500, David Miller wrote:
> From: Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>
> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 20:14:55 +0000
> 
> > On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 13:45 -0500, David Miller wrote:
> >> From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> >> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 18:44:52 +0100
> >> 
> >> > May I instead suggest to stick to ksoftirqd? So you run in
> softirq
> >> > context (after return from IRQ) and if takes too long, you
> offload
> >> the
> >> > vector to ksoftirqd instead. You may want to play with the
> metric
> >> on
> >> > which you decide when you want switch to ksoftirqd / account how
> >> long a
> >> > vector runs.
> >> 
> >> Having read over this stuff for the past few weeks this is how I
> feel
> >> as well.  Just make ksofbitrq do what we want (only execute the
> >> overloaded softirq vectors).
> >> 
> >> The more I look at the workqueue stuff, the more complications and
> >> weird behavioral artifacts we are getting for questionable gain.
> > 
> > What about creating several ksoftirqd threads per-cpu?
> > Like I did with boot parameter to specify how many threads and
> which
> > softirqs to serve.
> 
> Why do we need more than one per cpu?

Ugh, yeah, I remember why I did it - I tried to reuse scheduler for
each ksoftirqd thread to decide if it need to run now or later.
That would give an admin a way to prioritise softirqs with nice.
Not sure if it's a nice idea at all..

> 
> There is a set of vectors which are "overloaded" and ksoftirqd
> processes
> them one by one.
> 
> The only difference with what happens now is that one softirq being
> overloaded doesn't defer the processing of all softirqs to ksoftirqd.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-08 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-19 15:46 [RFC PATCH 0/4] softirq: Per vector threading v3 Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] softirq: Limit vector to a single iteration on IRQ tail Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-19 16:16   ` David Miller
2018-01-19 18:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-19 18:47       ` David Miller
2018-01-21 16:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-21 16:57           ` David Miller
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] softirq: Per vector deferment to workqueue Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-20  8:41   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-01-21 16:11     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-21 17:50       ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-01-21 20:48         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-08 17:44   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-02-08 18:45     ` David Miller
2018-02-08 20:14       ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-02-08 20:22         ` David Miller
2018-02-08 20:30           ` Dmitry Safonov [this message]
2018-02-09  4:11             ` Mike Galbraith
2018-02-09 12:35               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-02-15 16:13     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-15 16:58       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] softirq: Defer to workqueue when rescheduling is needed Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] softirq: Replace ksoftirqd with workqueues entirely Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-22 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] softirq: Per vector threading v3 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-23 10:13 ` Paolo Abeni
2018-01-23 12:32   ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-24  2:12     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-23 16:22   ` David Miller
2018-01-23 16:57     ` Paolo Abeni
2018-01-23 17:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-23 18:01         ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-23 18:24         ` David Miller
2018-01-24  1:57           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-24  2:01             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-24 14:54         ` Paolo Abeni
2018-01-24 15:05           ` David Miller
2018-01-24 16:11             ` Paolo Abeni
2018-02-07 14:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-01 15:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker

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