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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: How many null-data probes on connection loss?
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:12:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1538032363.14416.2.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e3c18a8d-9a58-54c5-9aaa-b778299f527b@candelatech.com>

On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 15:21 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
> 
> Now only 4 retries per frame, but it seems mac80211 is all 5 of its
> null-data probes within a few miliseconds.  Is that expected, or should
> there be a bit more pause between each of the probe requests to better
> weather periodic network glitches?

Hmm. That's a good point, but it seems we've never considered this
before. This must be a consequence of retrying immediately on lost ACK,
but I guess I could see that delaying it for a little bit would make
sense.

We do delay it if there's no reliable ACK reporting, IIRC, but if we
know it failed for sure ...

It seems though that if there's some noise or so on the channel you
wouldn't be transmitting, so what kind of "network glitches" might
affect this? AP going away unexpectedly for some time?

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-27  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-25 23:12 How many null-data probes on connection loss? Ben Greear
2018-09-26  8:38 ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-26 18:04   ` Ben Greear
2018-09-26 18:26     ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-26 18:47       ` Ben Greear
2018-09-26 18:48         ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-26 18:53           ` Ben Greear
2018-09-26 22:21           ` Ben Greear
2018-09-27  7:12             ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2018-09-27 15:32               ` Ben Greear
2018-09-28  7:19                 ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-28 15:14                   ` Ben Greear

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