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From: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, peterz@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	john.ogness@linutronix.de, david@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/page_isolation: fix a deadlock with printk()
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 11:33:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1570462407.5576.292.camel@lca.pw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191007151237.GP2381@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, 2019-10-07 at 17:12 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 07-10-19 10:59:10, Qian Cai wrote:
> [...]
> > It is almost impossible to eliminate all the indirect call chains from
> > console_sem/console_owner_lock to zone->lock because it is too normal that
> > something later needs to allocate some memory dynamically, so as long as it
> > directly call printk() with zone->lock held, it will be in trouble.
> 
> Do you have any example where the console driver really _has_ to
> allocate. Because I have hard time to believe this is going to work at
> all as the atomic context doesn't allow to do any memory reclaim and
> such an allocation would be too easy to fail so the allocation cannot
> really rely on it.

I don't know how to explain to you clearly, but let me repeat again one last
time. There is no necessary for console driver directly to allocate considering
this example,

CPU0:              CPU1:    CPU2:       CPU3:
console_sem->lock                       zone->lock
                   pi->lock
pi->lock                    rq_lock
                   rq->lock
                            zone->lock
                                        console_sem->lock

Here it only need someone held the rq_lock and allocate some memory. There is
also true for port_lock. Since the deadlock could involve a lot of CPUs and a
longer lock chain, it is impossible to predict which one to allocate some memory
while held a lock could end up with the same problematic lock chain.

> 
> So again, crippling the MM code just because of lockdep false possitives
> or a broken console driver sounds like a wrong way to approach the
> problem.
> 
> > [  297.425964] -> #1 (&port_lock_key){-.-.}:
> > [  297.425967]        __lock_acquire+0x5b3/0xb40
> > [  297.425967]        lock_acquire+0x126/0x280
> > [  297.425968]        _raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x3a/0x50
> > [  297.425969]        serial8250_console_write+0x3e4/0x450
> > [  297.425970]        univ8250_console_write+0x4b/0x60
> > [  297.425970]        console_unlock+0x501/0x750
> > [  297.425971]        vprintk_emit+0x10d/0x340
> > [  297.425972]        vprintk_default+0x1f/0x30
> > [  297.425972]        vprintk_func+0x44/0xd4
> > [  297.425973]        printk+0x9f/0xc5
> > [  297.425974]        register_console+0x39c/0x520
> > [  297.425975]        univ8250_console_init+0x23/0x2d
> > [  297.425975]        console_init+0x338/0x4cd
> > [  297.425976]        start_kernel+0x534/0x724
> > [  297.425977]        x86_64_start_reservations+0x24/0x26
> > [  297.425977]        x86_64_start_kernel+0xf4/0xfb
> > [  297.425978]        secondary_startup_64+0xb6/0xc0
> 
> This is an early init code again so the lockdep sounds like a false
> possitive to me.

This is just a tip of iceberg to show the lock dependency,

console_owner --> port_lock_key

which could easily happen everywhere with a simple printk().

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-07 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 22:26 [PATCH v2] mm/page_isolation: fix a deadlock with printk() Qian Cai
2019-10-07  8:07 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07  9:05   ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-07 11:33     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 12:34     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 12:34       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 11:04   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 11:37     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 12:11       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 12:11         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 12:43         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 13:07           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 13:07             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 14:10             ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-07 14:30 ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-07 14:49   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08  7:43     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08  8:27       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 12:56         ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-10-08 16:08           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 16:08             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 18:35             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 19:06               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 19:06                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 19:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 19:35                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 19:35                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 11:49                     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 13:06                       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:06                         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:27                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 13:43                           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:43                             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 13:51                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 14:19                               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 14:19                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 14:34                                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 15:08                                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 15:08                                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 16:23                                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-09 16:23                                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10  9:01                                       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 10:59                                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 13:11                                           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 13:11                                             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 14:18                                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 14:47                                               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 14:47                                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 17:30                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 17:48                                                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 17:48                                                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10 18:06                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10 18:59                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-09 14:24                             ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 14:46                               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 14:46                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-10  7:57                                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 11:39                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 13:56             ` Peter Oberparleiter
2019-10-09 14:26               ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10  5:12                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-10  7:40                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10  8:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-10  8:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-10  8:21                   ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-10  8:39                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-10 11:11                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-09 15:25               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 15:25                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-09 15:25                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 14:59   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 14:59     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-07 15:12     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-07 15:33       ` Qian Cai [this message]
2019-10-07 15:33         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08  8:15         ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08  9:32           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 13:23             ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:23               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 13:42               ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08 13:48                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 14:03                 ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 14:03                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 14:08                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08  8:40         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 10:04           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 10:39             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 12:00               ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 12:39                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 13:06                   ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:06                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:37                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-08 13:08     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-08 13:33       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 13:33         ` Qian Cai

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