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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	"Zhong, Yang" <yang.zhong@intel.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU and Kconfig
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 13:02:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15d0b50a-6374-d520-e85c-2e73833a046c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28af4bea-e017-cdab-e5e4-a9809cb2e409@redhat.com>

On 08/11/2018 11:14, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 2018-11-08 10:55, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 07/11/2018 20:30, Thomas Huth wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-07 20:24, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>> On 07/11/2018 16:41, Samuel Ortiz wrote:
>>>>>> - The Kconfig parser would be used to generate the equivalent of what we
>>>>>>   currently have under default-configs/
>>>
>>> I think we would still have something like default-configs - but there
>>> would only be the bare minimum config switches in there, the rest would
>>> be pulled in by dependencies.
>>
>> Yes, in theory default-configs would end up empty, except for possibly
>> some commented lines to show the "default y" symbols for the target.
> 
> I think we should enable the machines in the default configs (and maybe
> optional devices that are not automatically selected by machines), e.g.:
> 
> CONFIG_I440FX=y
> CONFIG_Q35=y
> CONFIG_VIRTPC=y
> CONFIG_ISAPC=y
> CONFIG_VIRTIO=y
> CONFIG_PARALLEL=y
> 
> In configs/nemu (or configs/lean-kvm or however we'll call it), you will
> then only have:
> 
> CONFIG_Q35=y
> CONFIG_VIRTPC=y
> CONFIG_VIRTIO=y
> 
> Would that make sense?

It would, however it would be hard to draw a line between which devices
are enabled by default or not.  I think in particular all devices that
currently are in default-configs/{hyperv,pci,sound,usb,virtio}.mak
should be "default y".  CONFIG_PARALLEL would be in a hypothetical
isa.mak and also "default y".

One example that we discussed of devices that should not be "default y"
is stuff like various I2C sensors (CONFIG_TMP105 for example); these
should not be included in x86 targets just because x86 has an I2C/SMBus
controller in it.  So for example tmp105 should probably be select-ed by
CONFIG_ASPEED and CONFIG_NSERIES.

Let me reiterate that your proposal _also_ makes sense, in fact it's
exactly it is done in the 2015 branch.  However, if everything were
"default y" and we write a script to write out the selected
configuration symbols to default-configs/ file, the difference would be
mostly that the lines in default-configs/ will look like
"#CONFIG_I440FX=y" instead of "CONFIG_I440FX=y".

And in fact, the latter would be nicer for people who want to modify
default-configs/ to specify a few boards and devices explicitly[1].  For
such people (which include both the RHEL QEMU and the NEMU maintainers)
after a rebase you would not get any new board or device.  So I'm
inclined more towards empty default-configs/ file, with comments
mentioning what can be enabled.

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2018-11-07 15:41             ` [Qemu-devel] QEMU and Kconfig Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-07 17:39               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-07 19:24                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-07 19:30                   ` Thomas Huth
2018-11-08  9:55                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 10:14                       ` Thomas Huth
2018-11-08 10:53                         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-11-08 12:02                         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-11-08 13:06                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-08 13:42                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 17:14                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-08 17:58                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 18:42                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-08 20:28                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 21:00                                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-09 10:10                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-09 19:16                                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-14 11:50                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 11:06                   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-12-13 11:50                     ` Yang Zhong
2018-12-13 13:27                       ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]         ` <20180926141518.GB9073@caravaggio>
     [not found]           ` <3743752b-2670-1d89-2088-1e67122f5dcd@redhat.com>
2018-11-08  8:46             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-11-08  9:56               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 12:46                 ` Markus Armbruster

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