From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: "Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
"Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
"Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
"Chuck Lever" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
"Chris Mason" <clm@fb.com>, "David Sterba" <dsterba@suse.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Linux NFS list" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"Btrfs BTRFS" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: A Third perspective on BTRFS nfsd subvol dev/inode number issues.
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2021 07:10:44 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <162793864421.32159.6348977485257143426@noble.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210802123930.GA6890@fieldses.org>
On Mon, 02 Aug 2021, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 02:18:29PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > For btrfs, the "location" is root.objectid ++ file.objectid. I think
> > the inode should become (file.objectid ^ swab64(root.objectid)). This
> > will provide numbers that are unique until you get very large subvols,
> > and very many subvols.
>
> If you snapshot a filesystem, I'd expect, at least by default, that
> inodes in the snapshot to stay the same as in the snapshotted
> filesystem.
As I said: we need to challenge and revise user-space (and meat-space)
expectations.
In btrfs, you DO NOT snapshot a FILESYSTEM. Rather, you effectively
create a 'reflink' for a subtree (only works on subtrees that have been
correctly created with the poorly named "btrfs subvolume" command).
As with any reflink, the original has the same inode number that it did
before, the new version has a different inode number (though in current
BTRFS, half of the inode number is hidden from user-space, so it looks
like the inode number hasn't changed).
NeilBrown
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-02 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-27 22:37 [PATCH/RFC 00/11] expose btrfs subvols in mount table correctly NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 07/11] exportfs: Allow filehandle lookup to cross internal mount points NeilBrown
2021-07-28 10:13 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-07-29 0:28 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 5:27 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-06 7:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-06 8:08 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-06 8:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-07-28 19:17 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-28 22:25 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 04/11] VFS: export lookup_mnt() NeilBrown
2021-07-30 0:31 ` Al Viro
2021-07-30 5:33 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 01/11] VFS: show correct dev num in mountinfo NeilBrown
2021-07-30 0:25 ` Al Viro
2021-07-30 5:28 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 5:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-07-30 6:13 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 7:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-07-30 7:33 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 7:59 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-02 4:18 ` A Third perspective on BTRFS nfsd subvol dev/inode number issues NeilBrown
2021-08-02 5:25 ` Al Viro
2021-08-02 5:40 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02 7:54 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-02 13:53 ` Josef Bacik
2021-08-03 22:29 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-08-02 14:47 ` Frank Filz
2021-08-02 21:24 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02 7:15 ` Martin Steigerwald
2021-08-02 21:40 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02 12:39 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 20:32 ` Patrick Goetz
2021-08-02 20:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 21:10 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2021-08-02 21:50 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 21:59 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-02 22:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-02 22:36 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-03 0:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 03/11] VFS: pass lookup_flags into follow_down() NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 11/11] btrfs: use automount to bind-mount all subvol roots NeilBrown
2021-07-28 8:37 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-28 8:37 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-28 8:37 ` [RFC PATCH] btrfs: btrfs_mountpoint_expiry_timeout can be static kernel test robot
2021-07-28 8:37 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-28 13:12 ` [PATCH 11/11] btrfs: use automount to bind-mount all subvol roots Christian Brauner
2021-07-29 0:43 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 14:38 ` Christian Brauner
2021-07-31 6:25 ` [btrfs] 5874902268: xfstests.btrfs.202.fail kernel test robot
2021-07-31 6:25 ` kernel test robot
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 06/11] nfsd: include a vfsmount in struct svc_fh NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 10/11] btrfs: introduce mapping function from location to inum NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 02/11] VFS: allow d_automount to create in-place bind-mount NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 09/11] nfsd: Allow filehandle lookup to cross internal mount points NeilBrown
2021-07-28 19:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-28 22:29 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 0:42 ` Al Viro
2021-07-30 5:43 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 08/11] nfsd: change get_parent_attributes() to nfsd_get_mounted_on() NeilBrown
2021-07-27 22:37 ` [PATCH 05/11] VFS: new function: mount_is_internal() NeilBrown
2021-07-28 2:16 ` Al Viro
2021-07-28 3:32 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 0:34 ` Al Viro
2021-07-28 2:19 ` [PATCH/RFC 00/11] expose btrfs subvols in mount table correctly Al Viro
2021-07-28 4:58 ` Wang Yugui
2021-07-28 6:04 ` Wang Yugui
2021-07-28 7:01 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-28 12:26 ` Neal Gompa
2021-07-28 19:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-29 1:29 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-29 1:43 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 23:20 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-28 22:50 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 2:37 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-29 3:36 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 23:20 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-30 2:36 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 5:25 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30 5:31 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30 5:53 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-07-30 6:00 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 6:09 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30 5:58 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 6:23 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30 6:53 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-30 7:09 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-07-30 18:15 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-30 15:17 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-30 15:48 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-30 16:25 ` Forza
2021-07-30 17:43 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-07-30 5:28 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-07-28 13:43 ` g.btrfs
2021-07-29 1:39 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-29 9:28 ` Graham Cobb
2021-07-28 7:06 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-28 9:36 ` Wang Yugui
2021-07-28 19:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-28 21:30 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-30 0:13 ` Al Viro
2021-07-30 6:08 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-13 1:45 ` [PATCH] VFS/BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export NeilBrown
2021-08-13 14:55 ` Josef Bacik
2021-08-15 7:39 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 19:35 ` Roman Mamedov
2021-08-15 21:03 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 21:53 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-17 19:34 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-17 21:39 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-18 17:24 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 22:17 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-19 8:01 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-20 3:21 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-20 6:23 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-08-23 4:05 ` [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: " NeilBrown
2021-08-23 8:17 ` kernel test robot
2021-08-23 8:17 ` kernel test robot
2021-08-18 14:54 ` [PATCH] VFS/BTRFS/NFSD: " Wang Yugui
2021-08-18 21:46 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-19 2:19 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-08-20 2:54 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-22 19:29 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-08-23 5:51 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-23 23:22 ` NeilBrown
2021-08-25 2:06 ` Zygo Blaxell
2021-08-23 0:57 ` Wang Yugui
2021-08-02 9:11 A Third perspective on BTRFS nfsd subvol dev/inode number issues Forza
2021-08-02 21:50 ` NeilBrown
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