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From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: "inoguchi.yuki@fujitsu.com" <inoguchi.yuki@fujitsu.com>
Cc: "'bfields@fieldses.org'" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"'Trond Myklebust'" <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	"'linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'mbenjami@redhat.com'" <mbenjami@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: client caching and locks
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:27:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <164245842205.24166.5326728089527364990@noble.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?=3COSZPR01MB7050A3B0D15D38420532CD31EF579=40OSZPR01MB?= =?utf-8?q?7050=2Ejpnprd01=2Eprod=2Eoutlook=2Ecom=3E?=

On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, inoguchi.yuki@fujitsu.com wrote:
> > 1/ If a client opens a file for write but does not get a delegation, and
> >    then writes to the file, then when it closes the file it *must*
> >    invalidate any cached data as there could have been a concurrent
> >    write from another client which is not visible in the changeid
> >    information. CTO consistency rules allow the client to keep cached
> >    data up to the close.
> > 2/ If a client opens a file for write and *does* get a delegation, then
> >    providing it gets a changeid from the server after final write and
> >    before returning the delegation, it can keep all cached data (until
> >    the server reports a new changeid).
> >
> > Note that the inability to cache in '1' *should* *not* be a performance
> > problem in practice.
> > a/ if locking is used, cached data is not trusted anyway, so no loss
> 
> How about the case for using whole-file lock?
> I'm assuming that cached data is trusted in this case, so it could be a performance problem, couldn't it? 

I don't think that case adds anything interesting.  When the file is
closed, the lock is dropped.  If there were any writes without a
delegation, then the changeid isn't a reliable indication that no other
client wrote.  So the cache must be dropped.

NeilBrown


> 
> Yuki Inoguchi
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-17 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-08 21:19 client caching and locks J. Bruce Fields
2020-06-18  9:54 ` inoguchi.yuki
2020-06-18 14:29   ` Trond Myklebust
2020-06-18 20:09     ` bfields
2020-06-22 13:52       ` bfields
2020-10-01 21:47         ` bfields
2020-10-01 22:26           ` Matt Benjamin
2020-10-06 17:26             ` bfields
2021-12-28  2:39               ` inoguchi.yuki
2021-12-28  5:11               ` NeilBrown
2022-01-03 16:20                 ` 'bfields@fieldses.org'
2022-01-04  9:24                   ` inoguchi.yuki
2022-01-04 12:36                     ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-04 15:32                       ` bfields
2022-01-04 15:54                         ` Trond Myklebust
2022-01-05  9:31                           ` inoguchi.yuki
2022-01-05 22:03                             ` 'bfields@fieldses.org'
2022-01-06  7:23                               ` inoguchi.yuki
2022-01-06 14:16                                 ` 'bfields@fieldses.org'
2022-01-07  8:33                                   ` inoguchi.yuki
2022-01-09 22:16                                   ` NeilBrown
2022-01-09 22:38                                     ` 'bfields@fieldses.org'
2022-01-09 21:58                               ` NeilBrown
2022-01-09 22:41                                 ` 'bfields@fieldses.org'
2022-01-17  9:09                                 ` inoguchi.yuki
2022-01-17 22:27                                 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2022-02-02  4:09                                   ` inoguchi.yuki
2022-02-02  4:25                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2022-02-02  4:44                                   ` NeilBrown
2022-02-03  7:31                                     ` inoguchi.yuki
2022-02-07  4:16                                     ` NeilBrown

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