From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from esa1.mentor.iphmx.com (esa1.mentor.iphmx.com [68.232.129.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D25527F5 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 03:45:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.96,158,1665475200"; d="scan'208";a="89665552" Received: from orw-gwy-02-in.mentorg.com ([192.94.38.167]) by esa1.mentor.iphmx.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2022 19:45:40 -0800 IronPort-SDR: rDmRybeSLM7Grt2OhWmAyMC5ifZSVtZMpj4aJF73No+3bEbOZi1nM+UpxEA9q3lIs1A/nuogXT /bonqGRCT9YoRAq+LRUbw8rl5ZLe4Ikj++yDWzXLe9C+JzCzGOMDk15WUSUHP/zDfqGmBeJN3/ 1KCG01fRuXYJrUPIWVAe9kcuZowSpZJMbmvsRVmQBWv81eFkmxfPYZR6s3zeXsHCw2/BTGaWxf J1sDhjpavRQPjT0PAPuk7+vlvSiLhvOw+dCrl7zU77u0QnnQG4HKXcG2z9u8KinteITcmS03pj R+8= Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 03:45:35 +0000 From: Joseph Myers To: Zack Weinberg CC: Florian Weimer , Zack Weinberg via Gcc , , , , Frederic Berat Subject: Re: How can Autoconf help with the transition to stricter compilation defaults? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <164af28-8e4e-29f3-dc6-871fc05b2a57@codesourcery.com> References: <24ed5604-305a-4343-a1b6-a789e4723849@app.fastmail.com> <87v8nmsmwt.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-1152306461-1538882196-1668224735=:699128" X-Originating-IP: [137.202.0.90] X-ClientProxiedBy: svr-ies-mbx-10.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.10) To svr-ies-mbx-10.mgc.mentorg.com (139.181.222.10) ---1152306461-1538882196-1668224735=:699128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 11 Nov 2022, Zack Weinberg via Gcc wrote: > These are also a trip hazard for novices, and the only way to turn them > off is with -std=cXX, which also turns another trip hazard (trigraphs) > *on*… so yeah, anything you can do to help speed up their removal, I > think it’d be worthwhile. As of GCC 13, -std=c2x will disable trigraphs, since they've been removed from C2x. -- Joseph S. Myers joseph@codesourcery.com ---1152306461-1538882196-1668224735=:699128--