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April 2021 15:57:17 MESZ schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman : >Why not just have any new driver not use this name, as it is, it's not >hurting anything. I just want to make it clean for users/admins for what kind of device this module is for (vendor.ko is imho not good at least for vendors manufacturing such different devices). And avoid such conflicts like the phy (which had reintroduced the unclear module name). The new module will be renamed in next version..there is only discussion about the new name...and so i tried to fix the "other end". >Until you can guarantee that renaming this is not >going to break anything, I can not take it. If a user/administrator installs a new major kernel version he needs to check if all is still working. Then the new module can be loaded...i don't see a real breakage or much work for "fix" this,but it's ok if you do not take it up. This driver is afair available since 5.4 so i guess not much spreading in large productive environments mostly still using 4.14 or 4.4 I can repost with better description,but this is not needed if change itself will be rejected. So maybe anyone else can comment too. regards Frank _______________________________________________ Linux-mediatek mailing list Linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mediatek From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B400C433ED for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 14:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from desiato.infradead.org (desiato.infradead.org [90.155.92.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC163613CC for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org Am 30. April 2021 15:57:17 MESZ schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman : >Why not just have any new driver not use this name, as it is, it's not >hurting anything. I just want to make it clean for users/admins for what kind of device this module is for (vendor.ko is imho not good at least for vendors manufacturing such different devices). And avoid such conflicts like the phy (which had reintroduced the unclear module name). The new module will be renamed in next version..there is only discussion about the new name...and so i tried to fix the "other end". >Until you can guarantee that renaming this is not >going to break anything, I can not take it. If a user/administrator installs a new major kernel version he needs to check if all is still working. Then the new module can be loaded...i don't see a real breakage or much work for "fix" this,but it's ok if you do not take it up. This driver is afair available since 5.4 so i guess not much spreading in large productive environments mostly still using 4.14 or 4.4 I can repost with better description,but this is not needed if change itself will be rejected. So maybe anyone else can comment too. regards Frank _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel