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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, Johannes.Thumshirn@wdc.com,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, ulf.hansson@linaro.org,
	andres@anarazel.de, asml.silence@gmail.com,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] cpufreq/schedutil: Remove iowait boost
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 13:58:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16a23fcc-9909-49ca-a692-cafca24c8a5b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0janPrWRkjcLkFeP9gmTC-nVRF-NQCh6CTET6ENy-_knQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 18/03/2024 17:08, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 5:40 PM Christian Loehle
> <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 18/03/2024 14:07, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:17 PM Christian Loehle
>>> <christian.loehle@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The previous commit provides a new cpu_util_cfs_boost_io interface for
>>>> schedutil which uses the io boosted utilization of the per-task
>>>> tracking strategy. Schedutil iowait boosting is therefore no longer
>>>> necessary so remove it.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering about the cases when schedutil is used without EAS.
>>>
>>> Are they still going to be handled as before after this change?
>>
>> Well they should still get boosted (under the new conditions) and according
>> to my tests that does work.
> 
> OK
> 
>> Anything in particular you're worried about?
> 
> It is not particularly clear to me how exactly the boost is taken into
> account without EAS.

So a quick rundown for now, I'll try to include something along the lines in
future versions then, too.
Every task_struct carries an io_boost_level in the range of [0..8] with it.
The boost is in units of utilization (w.r.t SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE, independent
of CPU the task might be currently enqueued on).
The boost is taken into account for:
1. sugov frequency selection with
io_boost = cpu_util_io_boost(sg_cpu->cpu);
util = max(util, io_boost);

The io boost of all tasks enqueued on the rq will be max-aggregated with the
util here. (See cfs_rq->io_boost_tasks).

2. Task placement, for EAS in feec();
Otherwise select_idle_sibling() / select_idle_capacity() to ensure the CPU
satisfies the requested io_boost of the task to be enqueued.

Determining the io_boost_level is a bit more involved than with sugov's
implementation and happens in dequeue_io_boost(), hopefully that part
is reasonably understandable from the code.

Hope that helps.

Kind Regards,
Christian


> 
>> So in terms of throughput I see similar results with EAS and CAS+sugov.
>> I'm happy including numbers in the cover letter for future versions, too.
>> So far my intuition was that nobody would care enough to include them
>> (as long as it generally still works).
> 
> Well, IMV clear understanding of the changes is more important.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-19 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04 20:16 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Introduce per-task io utilization boost Christian Loehle
2024-03-04 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Introduce per-task io util boost Christian Loehle
2024-03-07  6:20   ` kernel test robot
2024-03-25  3:30   ` Qais Yousef
2024-03-04 20:16 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] cpufreq/schedutil: Remove iowait boost Christian Loehle
2024-03-18 14:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-03-18 16:40     ` Christian Loehle
2024-03-18 17:08       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-03-19 13:58         ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2024-03-25  2:37         ` Qais Yousef
2024-04-19 13:42           ` Christian Loehle
2024-04-29 11:18             ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-07 15:19               ` Christian Loehle
2024-05-12 15:29                 ` Qais Yousef
2024-03-05  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Introduce per-task io utilization boost Bart Van Assche
2024-03-05  9:13   ` Christian Loehle
2024-03-05 18:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-03-06 10:49       ` Christian Loehle
2024-03-21 12:39         ` Qais Yousef
2024-03-21 17:57           ` Christian Loehle
2024-03-21 19:52             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-03-25 12:06               ` Christian Loehle
2024-03-25 17:23                 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-03-25  2:53             ` Qais Yousef
2024-03-22 18:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-03-25  2:20   ` Qais Yousef
2024-03-25 17:18     ` Christian Loehle
2024-03-25 12:24   ` Christian Loehle
2024-03-28 10:09     ` Vincent Guittot

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