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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:59:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1788c2ff-78a0-fcb6-b6aa-6238af7af740@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170906113157.GD2215@work-vm>

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On 09/06/2017 06:31 AM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:

>> This does imply that you need a separate monitor I/O processing, from the
>> command execution thread, but I see no need for all commands to suddenly
>> become async. Just allowing interleaved replies is sufficient from the
>> POV of the protocol definition. This interleaving is easy to handle from
>> the client POV - just requires a unique 'serial' in the request by the
>> client, that is copied into the reply by QEMU.
> 
> OK, so for that we can just take Marc-André's syntax and call it 'id':
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-01/msg03634.html
> 
> then it's upto the caller to ensure those id's are unique.

We ALREADY support 'id', and it is already up to the caller to ensure
those id's are unique, even without Marc-André's additions.

> 
> I do worry about two things:
>   a) With this the caller doesn't really know which commands could be
>   in parallel - for example if we've got a recovery command that's
>   executed by this non-locking thread that's OK, we expect that
>   to be doable in parallel.  If in the future though we do
>   what you initially suggested and have a bunch of commands get
>   routed to the migration thread (say) then those would suddenly
>   operate in parallel with other commands that we're previously
>   synchronous.

Presumably, all existing commands are NOT async, and introspection via
query-qmp-schema will let you query which new commands ARE async.  Or
existing commands will gain an optional parameter to opt-in to async
behavior for that command, defaulting to sync by default.  Thus, an old
libvirt will never call an async command, and never notice the
difference, but a new libvirt that is aware of async commands will opt
in to the commands that it wants to use in an async manner.

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-07 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-23  6:51 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread Peter Xu
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 1/8] monitor: move skip_flush into monitor_data_init Peter Xu
2017-08-23 16:31   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 2/8] monitor: allow monitor to create thread to poll Peter Xu
2017-08-23 17:35   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-25  4:25     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-25  9:30       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-28  5:53         ` Peter Xu
2017-09-08 17:29           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-25 15:27   ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-25 15:33     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-25 16:07       ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-25 16:12         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-25 16:21           ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-25 16:29             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-26  8:33               ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-28  3:05         ` Peter Xu
2017-08-28 10:11           ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-28 12:48             ` Peter Xu
2017-09-05 18:58               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-28 11:08         ` Markus Armbruster
2017-08-28 12:28           ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-28 16:24             ` Markus Armbruster
2017-08-28 17:24               ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-29  6:27                 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 3/8] char-io: fix possible risk on IOWatchPoll Peter Xu
2017-08-25 14:44   ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-08-26  7:19   ` Fam Zheng
2017-08-28  5:56     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 4/8] QAPI: new QMP command option "without-bql" Peter Xu
2017-08-23 17:44   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-23 23:37     ` Fam Zheng
2017-08-25  5:37       ` Peter Xu
2017-08-25  9:14         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-28  8:08           ` Peter Xu
2017-09-08 17:38             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-25  5:35     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-25  9:06       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-28  8:26         ` Peter Xu
2017-09-08 17:52           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 5/8] hmp: support "without_bql" Peter Xu
2017-08-23 17:46   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-25  5:44     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 6/8] migration: qmp: migrate_incoming don't need BQL Peter Xu
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 7/8] migration: hmp: " Peter Xu
2017-08-23  6:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 8/8] migration: add incoming mgmt lock Peter Xu
2017-08-23 18:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-25  5:49     ` Peter Xu
2017-08-25  9:34       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-08-28  8:39         ` Peter Xu
2017-08-29 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/8] monitor: allow per-monitor thread Daniel P. Berrange
2017-08-30  7:06   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-08-30 10:13     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-08-31  3:31       ` Peter Xu
2017-08-31  9:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-06  9:48   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-06 10:46     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-06 10:48       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-06 10:54         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-06 10:57           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-06 11:06             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-06 11:31               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-06 11:54                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-07  8:13                   ` Peter Xu
2017-09-07  8:49                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-07  9:18                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 10:19                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-07 10:24                         ` Peter Xu
2017-09-07  8:55                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-07  9:19                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07  9:22                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-07  9:27                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 11:19                         ` Markus Armbruster
2017-09-07 11:31                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07  9:15                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07  9:25                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-07 12:59                     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-09-07 13:22                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-07 17:41                         ` Markus Armbruster
2017-09-07 18:09                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-08  8:41                             ` Markus Armbruster
2017-09-08  9:32                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-08 11:49                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-09-08 13:19                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-11 10:32                                   ` Peter Xu
2017-09-11 10:36                                     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-11 10:43                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-08  9:27                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-07 14:20                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 17:41                         ` Markus Armbruster
2017-09-07 18:04                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 10:04                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 10:08                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-07 13:59                 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2017-09-06 14:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-06 15:14   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07  7:38     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-07  8:58     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-07  9:35       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 10:09         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-07 12:02           ` Peter Xu
2017-09-07 16:53             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-07 17:14               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 17:35                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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