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Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone
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Am Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2015, 12:57:26 schrieb Pavel Machek:
> Significant percentage of phones run Linux kernel today, but geting
> mainline kernel to work on a phone is very hard to do. (So hard, that=

> newest device that is close to working on recent mainline was made in=

> 2009.) There are multiple obstacles, including huge patches from
> silicon vendors, missing GNU/Linux userspace support that makes kerne=
l
> testing hard, interfaces unsuitable for phones and power management
> problems.

>>From work I know some MSM8916 phones which came to market over half a y=
ear ago=20
ad just now seem to get basic clock support in mainline.

But I guess the problem is not limited to cellphones but to all mobile=20=

consumer electronics, where the development model is based on hacking o=
n some=20
fork of an old kernel.


But I do think the ChromeOS people do quite a lot things right in terms=
 of=20
development model, as I can run a Debian (including 3d-acceleration) on=
 the=20
just released Rockchip Chromebooks with only a minimal number of additi=
onal=20
patches against 4.2-rc ;-)


> Interested people:
>=20
> Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>
> Pali Roh=E1r <pali.rohar@gmail.com>

The Openmoko Freerunner brought me into the embedded world in the first=
 place,=20
so I'd definitly be interested ;-)

Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>