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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2021 09:52:56 +0200 Message-ID: <192285.1625557976@gemini.denx.de> X-BeenThere: u-boot@lists.denx.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: U-Boot discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Sender: "U-Boot" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at phobos.denx.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Dear Tom, In message <20210705185141.GA9516@bill-the-cat> you wrote: > > I think I want to try and address this. While with "hush" we have > something that's in heavy active development outside of U-Boot, with LIL > we have something that's mature and "done". Mature? And still without consequent error checking? And done, i. e. this will never be fixed? > Tracking an active outside development is HARD and requires > constant resync. Based on that logic we should stop supporting Linux, and stop using DTs or file systems - all of these are under "active outside development". This is a bogus argiment. > Look at the last few > LIL releases. That could be easily re-worked in to our fork if needed. > I see that as a positive, not a negative. OK, this is your opinion. Mine differs. Please consider this as a full NAK from me when when you think of it as a _replacement_ (even an optional one) of the standard shell. If you like, have it added as an _additional_ command, of course fully optional and without impact on the rest of U-Boot if not intentionally selected. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.