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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Allen Yu <alleny@nvidia.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add "rpm_not_supported" flag
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 01:27:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1961774.JeWiFOnpio@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140716230345.GA3220@kroah.com>

On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 04:03:45 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:40:23AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:27:06 AM Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Here's a brief summary of the story behind this patch...
> > > 
> > > At one point, I suggested to Dan that instead of doing something
> > > special for these devices, we could simply have the runtime_suspend()
> > > routine always return -EBUSY.  He didn't like that idea because then
> > > the user would see the device was never powering down but would have no
> > > idea why.  The rpm_not_supported flag provides this information to the
> > > user by causing the power/runtime_status attribute to say "not
> > > supported".  (Although to be entirely fair, we could just put a message
> > > in the kernel log during probe if the hardware doesn't support runtime
> > > suspend.)
> > > 
> > > Instead, Dan introduced a messy PM QoS mechanism in commit
> > > e3d105055525.  I didn't like that approach, but Greg merged it before I
> > > objected.
> > 
> > That really looks a bit like a hack to me to be honest.
> > 
> > Greg, what's your plan toward this?
> 
> If I need to revert something that you all find was wrong, I'll be glad
> to do so, sorry for merging something too early.

Alan, what do you think?

I think we're still unsure if the approach taken by that commit is correct,
but then I suppose we don't need to revert it at this point and we can fix
it later.  Is that correct, or would fixing it be difficult for some reason?

Rafael


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-16 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-14 10:03 [PATCH 1/1] PM / Runtime: let rpm_resume fail if rpm disabled and device suspended Allen Yu
2014-06-14 10:03 ` Allen Yu
2014-06-14 14:32 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-14 14:32   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16  3:03   ` Allen Yu
2014-06-16 14:43     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16 17:40 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16 17:40   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-16 21:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-17 14:11     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-17 14:11       ` Alan Stern
2014-06-17 20:26       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-17 20:37         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-17 20:46           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-18 15:30             ` Alan Stern
2014-06-18 15:30               ` Alan Stern
2014-06-18 23:57               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-19  8:23                 ` Allen Yu
2014-06-19  8:23                   ` Allen Yu
2014-06-19 13:55                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-19 14:34                     ` Allen Yu
2014-06-19 14:34                       ` Allen Yu
2014-06-20 14:04                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-19 14:56                   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-19 19:25                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-19 19:25                       ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-19 20:13                       ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 13:20                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-20 14:48                           ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 21:34                             ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-20 21:34                               ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-22 13:40                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-22 13:24                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-20 21:31                         ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-20 21:31                           ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-21 13:34                           ` Alan Stern
2014-06-22 13:35                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-23 18:57                             ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-23 18:57                               ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-19 14:34                 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-19 14:34                   ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 13:33                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-20 14:43                     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-20 14:43                       ` Alan Stern
2014-06-22 13:21                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-22 16:45                         ` Alan Stern
2014-06-22 16:45                           ` Alan Stern
2014-06-24 23:38                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-27 18:27                             ` [RFC] Add "rpm_not_supported" flag Alan Stern
2014-06-27 19:22                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-06-27 20:11                                 ` Alan Stern
2014-06-27 20:50                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-06-28 15:32                                     ` Alan Stern
2014-06-30 13:52                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-30 14:42                                         ` Alan Stern
2014-07-01 23:18                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-02 14:27                                             ` Alan Stern
2014-07-02 17:56                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-03 21:16                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-03 21:17                                                 ` Alan Stern
2014-07-16 22:40                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16 23:03                                                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-16 23:27                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2014-07-17 14:27                                                     ` Alan Stern
2014-07-18  0:48                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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