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From: Jag Raman <jag.raman@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/18] vfio-user server in QEMU
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:04:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19B94D9D-9D65-42BD-813F-1A8BB55AB07F@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YfAekQfnC4VfSXtW@stefanha-x1.localdomain>



> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jag,
> Thanks for this latest revision. The biggest outstanding question I have
> is about the isolated address spaces design.

Thank you for taking the time to review the patches, Stefan!

> 
> This patch series needs a PCIBus with its own Memory Space, I/O Space,
> and interrupts. That way a single QEMU process can host vfio-user
> servers that different VMs connect to. They all need isolated address
> spaces so that mapping a BAR in Device A does not conflict with mapping
> a BAR in Device B.
> 
> The current approach adds special code to hw/pci/pci.c so that custom
> AddressSpace can be set up. The isolated PCIBus is an automatically
> created PCIe root port that's a child of the machine's main PCI bus. On
> one hand it's neat because QEMU's assumption that there is only one
> root SysBus isn't violated. On the other hand it seems like a special
> case hack for PCI and I'm not sure in what sense these PCIBusses are
> really children of the machine's main PCI bus since they don't share or
> interact in any way.

We are discussing the automatic creation part you just mentioned in
the following email:
[PATCH v5 07/18] vfio-user: set qdev bus callbacks for remote machine

I agree that automatic creation of a parent bus is not ideal - we could
specify the parent bus as a separate option in the command-line or
QMP. This change would avoid modification to hw/pci/pci.c - the new
PCI bus could be created inplace during device creation/hotplug.

The following image gives an idea of the bus/device topology in the remote
machine, as implemented in the current series. Each secondary bus and
its children have isolated memory and IO spaces.
https://gitlab.com/jraman/qemu/-/commit/2e2ebf004894075ad8044739b0b16ce875114c4c

> 
> Another approach that came to mind is to allow multiple root SysBusses.
> Each vfio-user server would need its own SysBus and put a regular PCI
> host onto that isolated SysBus without modifying hw/pci/pci.c with a
> special case. The downside to this is that violating the single SysBus
> assumption probably breaks monitor commands that rely on
> qdev_find_recursive() and friends. It seems cleaner than adding isolated
> address spaces to PCI specifically, but also raises the question if
> multiple machine instances are needed (which would raise even more
> questions).

Based on further discussion with Stefan, I got some clarity. We could consider one
more option as well - somewhere in-between multiple root SysBuses and the topology
discussed above (with secondary PCI buses). We could implement a
TYPE_SYS_BUS_DEVICE that creates a root PCI bus with isolated memory ranges.
Something along the lines in the following diagram:
https://gitlab.com/jraman/qemu/-/commit/81f6a998278a2a795be0db7acdeb1caa2d6744fb

An example set of QMP commands to attach PCI devices would be:
device_add pci-root-bus,id=rb1
device_add <driver>,id=mydev,bus=rb1
object-add x-vfio-user-server,device=mydev

where ‘pci-root-bus’ is a TYPE_SYS_BUS_DEVICE that creates its own root PCI bus.

I’m very sorry if the above two web links disturb your review workflow.

> 
> I wanted to raise this to see if Peter, Kevin, Michael, and others are
> happy with the current approach or have ideas for a clean solution.

Looking forward to your comments.

Thank you!
--
Jag

> 
> Stefan


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-19 21:41 [PATCH v5 00/18] vfio-user server in QEMU Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] configure, meson: override C compiler for cmake Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-20 13:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-20 15:21     ` Jag Raman
2022-02-17  6:10     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] tests/avocado: Specify target VM argument to helper routines Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25  9:40   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] pci: isolated address space for PCI bus Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-20  0:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-20 15:20     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-25 18:38       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-01-26  5:27         ` Jag Raman
2022-01-26  9:45           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-26 20:07             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-01-26 21:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27  8:30                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-27 12:50                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27 21:22                   ` Alex Williamson
2022-01-28  8:19                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-28  9:18                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-31 16:16                       ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-01  9:30                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-02-01 15:24                           ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-01 21:24                             ` Jag Raman
2022-02-01 22:47                               ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-02  1:13                                 ` Jag Raman
2022-02-02  5:34                                   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-02  9:22                                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-02-10  0:08                                     ` Jag Raman
2022-02-10  8:02                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-10 22:23                                         ` Jag Raman
2022-02-10 22:53                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-10 23:46                                             ` Jag Raman
2022-02-10 23:17                                           ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-10 23:28                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-10 23:49                                               ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-11  0:26                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-11  0:54                                                   ` Jag Raman
2022-02-11  0:10                                             ` Jag Raman
2022-02-02  9:30                                 ` Peter Maydell
2022-02-02 10:06                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-02 15:49                                     ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-02 16:53                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-02 17:12                                   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-01 10:42                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-01-26 18:13           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-01-27 17:43             ` Jag Raman
2022-01-25  9:56   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-25 13:49     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-25 14:19       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] pci: create and free isolated PCI buses Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 10:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-25 14:10     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] qdev: unplug blocker for devices Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 10:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-25 14:43     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-26  9:32       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-26 15:13         ` Jag Raman
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] vfio-user: add HotplugHandler for remote machine Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 10:32   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-25 18:12     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-26  9:35       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-26 15:20         ` Jag Raman
2022-01-26 15:43           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] vfio-user: set qdev bus callbacks " Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 10:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-25 21:12     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-26  9:37       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-26 15:51         ` Jag Raman
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] vfio-user: build library Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] vfio-user: define vfio-user-server object Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 14:40   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:41 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] vfio-user: instantiate vfio-user context Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 14:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] vfio-user: find and init PCI device Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 14:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-26  3:14     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] vfio-user: run vfio-user context Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 15:10   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-26  3:26     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] vfio-user: handle PCI config space accesses Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 15:13   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] vfio-user: handle DMA mappings Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] vfio-user: handle PCI BAR accesses Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] vfio-user: handle device interrupts Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 15:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] vfio-user: register handlers to facilitate migration Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-25 15:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-27 17:04     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-28  8:29       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-28 14:49         ` Thanos Makatos
2022-02-01  3:49         ` Jag Raman
2022-02-01  9:37           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-19 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] vfio-user: avocado tests for vfio-user Jagannathan Raman
2022-01-26  4:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-01-26 15:12     ` Jag Raman
2022-01-25 16:00 ` [PATCH v5 00/18] vfio-user server in QEMU Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-26  5:04   ` Jag Raman [this message]
2022-01-26  9:56     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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