From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33865) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwxpV-00026p-Ps for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:51:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwxpQ-0007LU-S4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:51:17 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::232]:33516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwxpQ-0007LB-IZ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:51:12 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-x232.google.com with SMTP id x79so45736099lff.0 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Paolo Bonzini References: <20161012191502.GC16187@work-vm> <20161018100409.GH4349@redhat.com> <20161018113202.GE2190@work-vm> <20161018120121.GN4349@redhat.com> <20161018132524.GG2190@work-vm> <20161018133528.GD12728@redhat.com> <20161018135213.GI2190@work-vm> <20161018140141.GF12728@redhat.com> <20161019170148.GE2035@work-vm> From: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <1aa4a32c-3816-1c8d-6722-b54c9f22fe09@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:51:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161019170148.GE2035@work-vm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com On 19/10/2016 19:01, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > * Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote: >> >> >> On 18/10/2016 16:01, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I already use error_report's in places in migration threads of various >>>>> types; I'm not sure if that's a problem. >>> Unless those places are protected by the big qemu lock, that sounds >>> not good. error_report calls into error_vprintf which checks the >>> 'cur_mon' global "Monitor" pointer. This variable is updated at >>> runtime - eg in qmp_human_monitor_command(), monitor_qmp_read(), >>> monitor_read(), etc. So if migration threads outside the BQL are >>> calling error_report() that could well cause problems. If you >>> are lucky messages will merely end up going to stderr instead of >>> the monitor, but in worst case I wouldn't be surprised if there >>> is a crash possibility in some race conditions. >> >> Writes to chardevs *are* thread-safe (assuming qio_channel_create_watch >> is thread-safe; it seems to be). > > Hmm that's useful (although it doesn't solve error_report because error_vprintf > is racy itself). How is it racy? Because of the case where cur_mon changes under the feet of error_vprintf? I guess that can be ignored for now (just a TODO comment will do). > How deadlock safe is it? In particular imagine I've got another > thread which is doing: > take bql > > write to a chardev > release bql > > if that chardev is registered on the main thread, will that > deadlock? No, it won't. Since your usecase is about the monitor, note that the monitor does its own buffering; if the nonblocking write leaves stuff in the buffer, the monitor will process the watch only after the BQL is released by the thread. However, there's no deadlock. Paolo >> Only reads aren't, in the sense that they require an event loop so they >> use that event loop for serialization. > > Hmm OK. > > Dave > >> >> Paolo > -- > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK > >